What is 'The Work Programme' ?

donnajunkie

Reverbe wrote: »

yes.. have been shoved on this - see my experiences on MSE.. TBh they are really a waste of time

yeah, mine dont seem to have a clue what they are doing and arent much help. it is early days though. at least they are hassling me less than before.

saintjammyswine

donnajunkie wrote: »

in this town there were 2 contractors for fnd and now only 1 for wp. they make out like there is 2 but the other is in another town which no doubt already had at least 1 contractor before as it is a bigger town.

The areas are split larger than by town, more like county(ish) boundaries.

saintjammyswine

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

How many people have you got into proper jobs then through this?
I cannot honestly believe that anyone could believe at all in this.Look at the news the other night it said unemployment was 9.1%. There was no mention about the work programme helping this poor unfortunate group of people back into the workplace. I really wonder why?

Yes, unemployment generally has risen, in this area though, the local JCP office that I work with on various projects has seen a fall in the number of people claiming JSA. I work for a college and so dont have direct input into providing jobs. My role is establishing partnerships with the likes of JCP, local authority, employers and third sector organisations to provide training and work experience for the clients, sorry cant beat me round the head with that one!

donnajunkie

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

A very big barrier is the lack of jobs.
I know the solution ! let all the unemployed fight each other tooth and nail for each opportunity!
End result- full employment.
Easy!

the main barrier is employers not wanting to know about someone who is long term. nothing they do changes this. training, work placements, at the end of the day they are still long term. maybe if placements were subsidised employment then people would be able to say they are no longer long term and will instantly become more appealing to employers.

saintjammyswine

There was the Future Jobs Fund which did something along those lines, this was cut unfortunately before the end of the project. Created a lot of subsidised jobs in many areas.

donnajunkie

dark_lady wrote: »

And how many of those vacancies were full time

How many of them were 8 hours or 12 hrs or 16 hrs a week

If a claimant doesnt have children they need to be in a job that is at least 30 hours a week to claim working tax credits. So how are you addressing those types of barriers.
For instance how can you expect a single person or a couple WITHOUT kids to live on a part time wage from say a 20 hour a week job on minimum wage hmmm? Especially when they cant claim tax credits because the job isnt enough hours and they dont have living proof that they have had sex without contraception!

those people usually get told to get 2 part time jobs.

leasky30

saintjammyswine wrote: »

Sorry to hear that, have you brought up these problems with JCP? In each area, there are 2 main contractor providers so it may be possible to get referred to the other one if its that bad with this one.

i am at triage central, which is a sub contractor for working links, i was singing on yesterday and there was no mention of triage, or any mention of sanctions, ive not got a clue what's going on and i don't want to ask on the working links page on facebook as its recorded and triage can see what ive said

its been a joke since day one on it, they double booked me al ready, even phoned me while on holiday asking why i didn't turn up even though they knew i was a way and my appointment was for when i came back, i have noticed that triage central in Darlington has went bust, but im not sure if it anything to do with that, i have an appointment at the end off the month for a review but im not sure if that will happen now, they tried to get me onto a goals course, but i got told it was full, that was on the 18th Aug, was ment to be there on 2nd of sep, but that was ment to be rescheduled, but as of yet no call or letter

donnajunkie

saintjammyswine wrote: »

The areas are split larger than by town, more like county(ish) boundaries.

no doubt alot of people will be pi**ed off due to getting sent to other towns rather than a provider in their own town like it would always have been in the past.

saintjammyswine

leasky30 wrote: »

i am at triage central, which is a sub contractor for working links, i was singing on yesterday and there was no mention of triage, or any mention of sanctions, ive not got a clue what's going on and i don't want to ask on the working links page on facebook as its recorded and triage can see what ive said

its been a joke since day one on it, they double booked me al ready, even phoned me while on holiday asking why i didn't turn up even though they knew i was a way and my appointment was for when i came back, i have noticed that triage central in Darlington has went bust, but im not sure if it anything to do with that, i have an appointment at the end off the month for a review but im not sure if that will happen now, they tried to get me onto a goals course, but i got told it was full, that was on the 18th Aug, was ment to be there on 2nd of sep, but that was ment to be rescheduled, but as of yet no call or letter

Sounds like a shocking experience, wish I could help, sorry.

saintjammyswine

donnajunkie wrote: »

no doubt alot of people will be pi**ed off due to getting sent to other towns rather than a provider in their own town like it would always have been in the past.

The providers should be using facilities dotted around each area they are in, offices, schools, local JCP offices are the usual ones.