Crafty NIE (Keypad)

hazelc56

spike7451 wrote: »

Thanks Hazel,are the any reviews for this Budget Energy,I've not heard of them before.

Dont know about reviews Spike as i think this a newish company like some others are.I suppose we shall just have to wait and see.All i know is that they are 13% cheaper for keypad users and 17% cheaper for bill payers than NIE.They have told me that this will always remain the case.They dont rope you into a contract like Airtricity so you can leave whenever you want to,and they dont make you pay a £5 charge for buying online or telephone as does Airtricity.Seems like a good deal and hopefully it will be.

Parisien

rolo1 wrote: »

Ditch NIE and move to Budget or Airtricity ASAP

Just doing so on Monday

Silvercloud

Cancelled my Airtricity application in the cooling off period and have opted for Budget on the basis that they appear to be cheaper (surely the crucial factor for everyone) and don't charge for online/telephone top ups.Time will tell...

Bigcammy

I'm moving house so have to sign up with NIE first before I move to Budget, pain in the butt!

hazelc56

Bigcammy wrote: »

I'm moving house so have to sign up with NIE first before I move to Budget, pain in the butt!

BC..All good things come to those who wait.:dance:

niceday999

yorkie98 wrote: »

You have taken my use of the word cheat in the wrong context, I meant it like to trick (to "cheat" Death) etc.. not as in to be dishonest.

With keypad meters, nobody gets to "cheat" (honestly or dishonestly) anybody as the price rise is effective as of 01/10, not by the money you have in your meter or when you next top up but by the price per unit charged as of that date. PowerNI do not charge the new rate until 01/10 regardless of how much/little there is in the meter and those who apply the 40 digit powercode late (after 01/10) are restropectively back-charged the per-unit cost underpaid from 01/10.
Nobody winning, nobody losing, nobody "cheating" as PowerNI have given the required warning of the price rise and one way or another, all customers will pay the new unit rate on all units used from 01/10.

I'm no big fan of PowerNI and certainly not a fan of the price rise
but there's nothing we can do about it, the other providers will follow suit soon enough.
The reason I'm trying to promote some calm here is that from an MSE point of view, where's the sense in piling money into a prepayment meter (possibly reshuffling financial priorities) to load up the meter on the misguided notion that this will save them money when it won't, not a single penny. That's not going to help anyone..

can anyone verify that this is correct ? whether we put more money on our keypad meters now we'll be charges the higher rate from 1/10/11 regardless !!!!!!

guli

niceday999 wrote: »

can anyone verify that this is correct ? whether we put more money on our keypad meters now we'll be charges the higher rate from 1/10/11 regardless !!!!!!

It ain't so, you can stock up at old tarriff, as long as it's done before 20th Sept.

Here's some older (2008) news:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/topup-shock-for-nie-customers-13982278.html

guli

stevenc75 wrote: »

That's not correct. Once you input the new tariff the rate you are charged changes and any electric you use is charged at the new rate, even if you topped up prior to the rate change. I called NIE to check this and that is what they told me.

Why would you input the new tariff when there is credit left????? Use to ~zero before topping up!

guli

Rule of thumb:

1) Top up to the maximum you can afford before any price increase.

2) DO NOT key in any 40 or 60 digit tarriff rate change (of any price increase) until credit runs out

3) Top up only when credit runs out


Now, conversely,

4) If NIE (big IF) decides to drop the price, top up immediately when possible, even when there is credit still in the meter

5) Entering a new 40 or 60 digit tarriff rate change (of any price decrease) will ensure everything in the meter will be at the new lower rate, including any credit left in the meter!

hazelc56

niceday999 wrote: »

can anyone verify that this is correct ? whether we put more money on our keypad meters now we'll be charges the higher rate from 1/10/11 regardless !!!!!!

yorkie98 - my wonderment is...why are you going to continue on with PowerNI when there are other cheaper suppliers about at the moment.You can switch.
Furthermore,regarding the price increase,nobody will get cheap electricity from PowerNI or any other supplier for that matter when the price rises.If you have put £20 in your meter for eg.2 days before the rise you will pay for it at that tarriff,When the price rises 2 days later you will pay for at the new risen tarriff,(in other words you will get less electricity for your money)even if you havent entered the 19 digit changeover code they will catch us all up and PowerNI will get what is theirs in the long run.