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Some mornings it simply isn't worth chewing through the straps

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  • qetu1357
    qetu1357 Posts: 1,013 Forumite
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    Added to the old adage about the only two things you can be sure about in life are death and taxes should be a third: councils are always run by numpties. I think it's a prerequisite; they ask you about it at interview I believe. Aah, here we go... I've dug out an old job application form for a role at my local council...

    Key skills required:
    • Procastination
    • Downright awkwardness
    • Illogicality
    • Numptiness

    Rot.

    The admissions policy defines the catchment area.

    They are outside the catchment area.

    They apply and don't get - suprised?

    They appeal and don't win - surprised?
  • JimmyTheWig
    JimmyTheWig Posts: 12,199 Forumite
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    It would make much more sense in articles like this if someone explained why this situation had come about.
    I'm guessing that when the boundaries were drawn the side of the road that this family live on didn't exist and no-one has updated the boundaries since.

    We don't have catchment areas around here, which I guess makes things easier.
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    qetu1357 wrote: »
    Rot.

    The admissions policy defines the catchment area.

    They are outside the catchment area.

    They apply and don't get - suprised?

    They appeal and don't win - surprised?

    Don't bring me into your ranty row. I'm just being droll about councils. I couldn't give a flying fcuk about admissions policies.
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • qetu1357
    qetu1357 Posts: 1,013 Forumite
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    hippygran wrote: »
    Councils,it seems, have long been quite, quite stupid!
    In the 70's, my family faced a very similar thing.
    Myself, and my middle sister attended one senior school.
    After number 2 sister had started at said school, the family moved (less than 100 yards - and incidentally CLOSER to the school- in one direction), and number 3 sister had to go to a different school, by bicycle or bus.
    There was only 3 years and 10 days difference in ages between me (eldest daughter), and the youngest child.
    It was a HUGE thing for my younger sister at the time being separated from her other siblings. She had gone to the same infants & primary school (which believe it or not was on the perimeter of secondary school, but had different catchment criteria, as originally the family lived very close (a couple of doors further away!) to the house where they did not fit the catchment area of the senior school!
    It was madness then, and is madness now. Whatever happened to common sense?

    Suspect now there would be a sibiling rule which would mean she would get in the same school now.
  • bosseyed
    bosseyed Posts: 475 Forumite
    Maybe I'm being astoundingly dense, but I don't really see the issue here.

    Aside from the fact that its seems a little strange for the catchment boundary to run directly outside the school (I always imagined schools as sitting at the centre of a rough circle - apparently this is incorrect, at least in Leicester...) if you're outside the catchment area then essentially tough luck.

    Surely wherever you draw the line you'll end up with a subdivision that seems illogical. If the line was moved to encompass the Coopers house then the people in the road behind them might be saying "Why can't our little Jimmy go to Montrose, after all we can see it from our top window, its a farce, rah rah rah"...

    I'm all for calling out councils for wasteful spending and ridiculous policies, but in this case it seems like its nothing out of the ordinary. Unless, as I say I'm being dense.
  • qetu1357
    qetu1357 Posts: 1,013 Forumite
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    Don't bring me into your ranty row. I'm just being droll about councils. I couldn't give a flying fcuk about admissions policies.

    Fair point.

    Just whinge about how crap councils are without even understanding the basics of how they operate.
  • qetu1357
    qetu1357 Posts: 1,013 Forumite
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    bosseyed wrote: »
    Maybe I'm being astoundingly dense, but I don't really see the issue here. Aside from the fact that its seems a little strange for the catchment boundary to run directly outside the school (I always imagined schools as sitting at the centre of a rough circle - apparently this is incorrect, at least in Leicester...) if you're outside the catchment area then essentially tough luck. Surely wherever you draw the line you'll end up with a subdivision that seems illogical. If the line was moved to encompass the Coopers house then the people in the road behind them might be saying "Why can't our little Jimmy go to Montrose, after all we can see it from our top window, its a farce, rah rah rah"...I'm all for calling out councils for wasteful spending and ridiculous policies, but in this case it seems like its nothing out of the ordinary. unless, as I say I'm being dense.

    Well said.

    The catchment area was clear.

    The parents either ignored it or were ignorant of it.

    Tough cookie for them!
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    qetu1357 wrote: »
    Fair point.

    Just whinge about how crap councils are without even understanding the basics of how they operate.

    Oooooooooo!! Get you! When you've finished holding your handbag up in chuntering outrage, you'll see that my 'whinge' was in fact a 'joke'. Get over yourself.
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • qetu1357
    qetu1357 Posts: 1,013 Forumite
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    Oooooooooo!! Get you! When you've finished holding your handbag up in chuntering outrage, you'll see that my 'whinge' was in fact a 'joke'. Get over yourself.

    Jokes are supposed to be funny...............
  • Azari
    Azari Posts: 4,317 Forumite
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    qetu1357 wrote: »
    Dont be offensive to me you ars*h*le.

    You can only appeal against the application of the policy.

    The policy states where the catchment area is.

    They live outside the catchement area.

    You cannot appeal against the content of the policy.

    Read the policy have you? No.

    Read the appeals policy have you? No.

    Got a brain have you? No.
    qetu1357 wrote: »
    The common sense is this
    1. Read the admissions policy
    2. Check whether you school you want is historically oversubscribed
    3. Establish whether you met any of the admission critera for the school you want
    4. If yes - apply but be aware of when you stand in the critera priortisation
    5. If no - don't
    qetu1357 wrote: »
    Rot.

    The admissions policy defines the catchment area.

    They are outside the catchment area.

    They apply and don't get - suprised?

    They appeal and don't win - surprised?


    My God, you really are incredibly stupid, aren't you?

    Presumably you work for a council as there can't be that many sad, dim, little jobsworths such as yourself - for whom rules are more important than basic common sense - for them to draw on.

    And you could start an argument in an empty room. ;)
    There are two types of people in the world: Those that can extrapolate information.
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