iPhone roaming charges - please help.

Humphrey10

dappyhel wrote: »

The problem there is that I was not given a manual.

Open Safari. Look at the default bookmarks.

Tony5101

macman wrote: »

Asalready mentioned, these 'on arrival' texts are sent in the EU only. Since the roaming charges are not passed back to the UK operator in real time (it can be hours or days later, depending on the local network you connected to), it's not possible to monitor such usage.

Maybe this is the case with Orange...but every time I've been overseas when I was with Vodafone - I always got a text as soon as I connected to the overseas network - regardless of the destination. (Egypt/USA/Mexico etc.) Something which I feel other networks customers would benefit from.

ash28

Tony5101 wrote: »

Maybe this is the case with Orange...but every time I've been overseas when I was with Vodafone - I always got a text as soon as I connected to the overseas network - regardless of the destination. (Egypt/USA/Mexico etc.) Something which I feel other networks customers would benefit from.

Me too - I've just come back from a month in the US (data roaming turned off) and got texts when we arrived in California and again in Florida - also got periodic texts warning about the potential costs of data roaming overseas.

I thought that was standard practice for all networks but maybe it's not.

Cash-Strapped.T32

2sides2everystory wrote: »

we may be witnessing a deliberate scam by some networks who sell iphones

I suspect I'm only slightly guilty of selective quoting here but this part made me laugh a little..

Tony5101 wrote: »

Are you sure about no longer needing to be set to allow roaming?
Admittedly, I use an HTC Mozart, but I was still told only 2 weeks ago that for me to continue to be allowed to use data via TMobile, I had to leave the settings as "data roaming allowed".

Afaik you certainly do with my phone, an OSF on T-Mobile.
Well, as you correctly point out, *only* if you want to use data - To use basic voice/text services you don't need to touch anything in order to toggle between the two networks.

Personally, I activate data on the phone just before I use an internet app, and de-activate it just after; it takes all of 3-secs & if you're gonna be manipulating the phone in your hand to do I]whatever[/I activity it was, it's no loss or inconvenience to enable or disable data in the first place.

Just think of it as a computer that will automatically dial-up to the internet; What would any sensible user do? Unplug the modem after use, and plug it in again immediately prior to use.

Tony5101 wrote: »

OK - getting to the point....that change was made to a (probably) little known/very infrequently changed setting to my phone, and had I not been quite phone savvy, would have happily gone on holiday - probably doing not much with my phone...

Tbh, I would have hoped that any smartphone user should be the very definition of "savvy", I mean, what other kind of person could have a use for a fully-specced computer they can carry at all times?

It's like the acid-trip interfaces, rounded-edges & glossy surfaces of these smartphones make people think they're something other than they are; They're not fashion accessories (well, I might agree that an iPhone is very much a fashion accessory but I digress), if you swap the word "smartphone" for "laptop", or "desktop computer" people would very quickly see things differently. He hopes...


Btw; Pardon me for seeming to quote your posts exclusively (I only just noticed it was the same user), please don't think I'm being trying to pick at you, I'm honestly not - I hate to see a big company "get one over" on a normal person (I would certainly be less than philosophical about it), because it only encourages them to bend other customers over for money, and so it continues..

ilovemydebts

why is it a conspiracy by the phone companies, the user is at fault, they go "oh look a nice new shiney phone lets take it on holiday"
Their fault for not reading up on the charges, too much blame everyone else going on and not looking closer to home.
Ignorance is bliss till you find out how stupid you are.

Hammyman

dappyhel wrote: »

I'm just very scared and worried about how I'm going to find the money and was hoping that someone could offer me some reassurance and perhaps experience in the matter.

What reassurance do you want? We can lie and say its all right and they won't want the money and will write it off or we can tell you the truth but thats not going to help is it?

MissKeith

Hammyman wrote: »

What reassurance do you want? We can lie and say its all right and they won't want the money and will write it off or we can tell you the truth but thats not going to help is it?

Read the rest of the thread before you spout your usual nasty drivel.

robt_2

2sides2everystory wrote: »

Reading so often about data roaming charges surprises of this magnitude indicates indicates quite clearly that we may be witnessing a deliberate scam by some networks who sell iphones on contracts knowing that they are a loaded gun to the uninitiated. We probably hear twice as many complaints about this with iphones than with other handsets.

The iPhone default setting for data roaming is 'off'. It warns you that it will be expensive if you turn it on.

Don't make this out to be an iPhone problem.

pingu

when i go on holiday i always call my provider to let them know im going and to make sure that my phone will work in that country

they do tell/warn about roaming charges voicemail charges and how to switch it off also calls/text charges for making/receiving them

apart from vodafone i have been with all companies

im with tesco now:D

Any

ilovemydebts wrote: »

why is it a conspiracy by the phone companies, the user is at fault, they go "oh look a nice new shiney phone lets take it on holiday"
Their fault for not reading up on the charges, too much blame everyone else going on and not looking closer to home.
Ignorance is bliss till you find out how stupid you are.

That is actually quite rude. You were obviously born with all the knowledge in the world. Just make sure you measure the doorway before you go through, your head might get stuck.

I am aware of all the expensive roaming charges and I always check my Iphone's settings to "off".
However the last bank holiday weekend we went away and I forgot to do it before, I remembered and checked once we got there and it was "on" (even though I would never ever had any need to switch it on). I switched it off immediately. Thinking "well, I didn't need the net or used any apps anyway so I'll be O.K.".

I got charged £1.50 for data for those few hours before I remembered. Not going to argue with anyone over that, just will remember to ALWAYS check before.

But can anyone tell me why does the phone uses data if you are not using anything?

Before my old internet, which was dial up, never dialed up itself... unless I dialed up!!