Can I get a CRB check on a cleaner?

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  • Any
    Any Posts: 7,957 Forumite
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    If you employ through an agency they will (or should!) have liability insurance to cover thefts/damage etc. Whether you hire direct or via an agency your best bet is to check that the person you are having into your home has proper insurance.

    CRB checks are more about people who will be working with children or vulnerable adults and there are strict rules about when it is appropriate to do a CRB check.

    see:

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Startinganewjob/DG_195809

    I have done accounts for a company who did CRBs (and enhanced checks including reference confirming etc) for others and there were banks, security companies and even some private clients who had them done for potential employees.

    The link only says that only registered bodies can do the check - those bodies are also companies that make living by checks.

    I am not entirely sure that you cannot have the check done. But obviously I didn't see into client books of this company's clients, so I am not entirely sure..

    I do not want to advertise this company, but I have found different one just so you know what to google for... http://www.securebyintegrity.co.uk/
  • Just wanted to add for the one or two confused by what a cleaner does - a cleaner is anything from someone who will simply come to clean your home, to someone who does your washing, washing up, household chores, and yes even tidying! It's whatever you agree with them to do and whatever they're prepared to do. Nothing wrong with it if you have the means and you would rather spend your short precious time on more important things. I'd give anything to have one!
  • pleasedelete
    pleasedelete Posts: 2,291 Forumite
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    edited 6 September 2011 at 7:55AM
    Actually you can get a CRB for your cleaner if you are their employer. It would be good practice if they were in contact with vulnerable people (children ,elderly, vulnerable adults). You go to an umbrella organisation who processes it on your behalf. You get a copy and the cleaner gets a copy. Costs anything from free (but more likely £45) with a charity to £200 with a private company.

    However are you actually their employer? Most cleaners are either self employed or work through an agency. If you are registered as their employer (and pay their tax, Ni if relevant etc) then you do the crb.

    If they work for an agency they will usually have been crb checked although the agency is not required to share details with their clients.

    If they are self employed they may have have their own crb done if they work through a limited company (again processed by an umbrella company) . Harder to get one done if a sole trader.
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  • Just wanted to add for the one or two confused by what a cleaner does - a cleaner is anything from someone who will simply come to clean your home, to someone who does your washing, washing up, household chores, and yes even tidying! It's whatever you agree with them to do and whatever they're prepared to do. Nothing wrong with it if you have the means and you would rather spend your short precious time on more important things. I'd give anything to have one!

    I'm not confused; my cleaner comes - she cleans - she goes home. If I wanted someone to tidy and do other household chores, then I'd employ a maid service. The clue to what a cleaner does is in the name 'cleaner'. I hope that helps.
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
  • I'm not confused; my cleaner comes - she cleans - she goes home. If I wanted someone to tidy and do other household chores, then I'd employ a maid service. The clue to what a cleaner does is in the name 'cleaner'. I hope that helps.

    Thank you - actually, t's only helped to clarify what YOUR cleaner does for YOU. At the end of the day, what she does for you is an agreement between you and her.

    My mother's been a cleaner for over 40 years and she doesn't just clean. Neither have the multitude of other cleaners she's known over the years. You can't call it housekeeping because she doesn't live in so what else do you call it?? Perhaps your cleaner doesn't offer those services because she either doesn't want to or she doesn't want to offer them to you.

    Either way, I was just explaining it to clarify no need for the very unnecessary sarcasm!
  • looptip
    looptip Posts: 10 Forumite
    Whether you hire direct or via an agency your best bet is to check that the person you are having into your home has proper insurance.
  • Thank you - actually, t's only helped to clarify what YOUR cleaner does for YOU. At the end of the day, what she does for you is an agreement between you and her.

    My mother's been a cleaner for over 40 years and she doesn't just clean. Neither have the multitude of other cleaners she's known over the years. You can't call it housekeeping because she doesn't live in so what else do you call it?? Perhaps your cleaner doesn't offer those services because she either doesn't want to or she doesn't want to offer them to you.

    Either way, I was just explaining it to clarify no need for the very unnecessary sarcasm!

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: - you felt you had to clarify a point for us 'confused' when we aren't confused at all.

    You mum may offer 'extra' services, and call herself a cleaner - but a cleaner cleans. It's really that simple. No need for you to clarify what a cleaner does for people, and no need to say that my cleaner doesn't offer 'extra' services - I just want her to clean, I employ her to clean and clean she does. Because - she's a cleaner. Simples.
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
  • ~Chameleon~
    ~Chameleon~ Posts: 11,956 Forumite
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    Another issue is that Huntley did not work at the school the two children went to. He worked at a different school in the area. The link was his girlfriend, not him. She was a teaching assistant in their class. Her record was completely clean which meant she would still have been allowed to work there. The kids went to the house looking for her, not him.


    The girls' school is in the same grounds as the one he worked at. They didn't go to his house, he took them there. He didn't have a CRB check done either, nor were his references followed up. It was an oversight of the deputy head at the time.


    To the OP, I think you can get a CRB check done if you have children in your family. It costs around £85 as far as I remember.
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  • :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: - you felt you had to clarify a point for us 'confused' when we aren't confused at all.

    You mum may offer 'extra' services, and call herself a cleaner - but a cleaner cleans. It's really that simple. No need for you to clarify what a cleaner does for people, and no need to say that my cleaner doesn't offer 'extra' services - I just want her to clean, I employ her to clean and clean she does. Because - she's a cleaner. Simples.
    I was trying to clarify this for people who don't truly understand this type of industry. I was also trying to make the point that just because you think it is one way, it isn't the only story and trying to show posters like yourself (I wasn't targetting you specifically!) that you can't speak with such finality on a subject you don't know first hand, ie you're not a cleaner, you only employ one, and all you've asked yours to do is to clean. In your mind you're right because you want to be, but you don't seem open minded to the possibility that you're wrong and that there may be more to it. That's why I posted to clarify.

    Anyway, none of this really helps the OP so let's agree to disagree and move on, shall we? :rotfl::rotfl:
  • I was trying to clarify this for people who don't truly understand this type of industry. I was also trying to make the point that just because you think it is one way, it isn't the only story and trying to show posters like yourself (I wasn't targetting you specifically!) that you can't speak with such finality on a subject you don't know first hand, ie you're not a cleaner, you only employ one, and all you've asked yours to do is to clean. In your mind you're right because you want to be, but you don't seem open minded to the possibility that you're wrong and that there may be more to it. That's why I posted to clarify.

    Anyway, none of this really helps the OP so let's agree to disagree and move on, shall we? :rotfl::rotfl:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaner
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
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