The end of the 60 watt lightbulb.

KxMx

I think this issue may well go down in the history books/ consumer programmes as a national scandal in the future.

I don't believe energy bulbs have been researched and tested correctly, I think what happened is as soon as the Government thought a "green" alternative had arrived, they leapt on it and embraced it without due dilligence. And we have the results.

jackieb

KxMx wrote: »

I think this issue may well go down in the history books/ consumer programmes as a national scandal in the future.

I don't believe energy bulbs have been researched and tested correctly, I think what happened is as soon as the Government thought a "green" alternative had arrived, they leapt on it and embraced it without due dilligence. And we have the results.

At work we all got guidelines on what to do if an energy bulb breaks and i'm sure you have to vacate the room! :eek:

rygon

paddyrg wrote: »

LED bulbs all strobe too. Also, cheaper ones will fail early thanks to poor thermal design.

You can get dimmable LED bulbs now.

RHemmings

TheSaint wrote: »

Buy an LED bulb - they come for pretty much any fitting out there.
They do cost a bit more than flourescent rubbish, but they are waaay brighter (like a normal bulb) and use practically no energy (less than a flourescent).

I am all LED in my house Energy saving

I would like to try an LED bulb, but can't seem to find a "normal" white bayonet fitting LED bulb. Are they out there?

Reverbe

they dont last any longer either these energy saving bulbs. theyre dimmer and man alive have you seen what you have to do if one breaks?? Its like dealing with nuclear fallout!

Reverbe

prowla wrote: »

The yanks reckon that the low energy bulbs contain mercury and are more damaging to the environmentt.

They DO. Read what you have to do if one breaks. I hope to GOD one never does .. it would seriously freak me

Azari

prowla wrote: »

The yanks reckon that the low energy bulbs contain mercury and are more damaging to the environmentt.

LOL, that's quite funny.

Do you think that it's a quirk of Americans to consider that CFC's contain mercury?

Anyone with any understanding of the technology knows that they contain mercury but in microscopic quantities that are unlikely to do anyone any harm unless they spend their days breaking these en masse things in an enclosed space.

TheSaint_2

The new ones don't contain any mercury (i believe) so i am pretty sure you can ignore that one.
As I said LED bulbs are great - yes they strobe - so does your TV - do you get headaches watching tv?
Hmm a 60w bulb also strobes, as it is emitting light which has a wavelength .

Light is a wave, so it oscillates like a wave.... It is just that the frequency of the floucescent tubes can be noticeable.
An LED unit is not noticeable, and don't buy cheap ones because they do fail quick.

Azari

TheSaint wrote: »

The new ones don't contain any mercury (i believe) so i am pretty sure you can ignore that one.

False.

The mercury is a vital part of the process involved in producing their light. (Unless you have a link that credibly contradicts the extant knowledge on the subject.)

As I said LED bulbs are great - yes they strobe - so does your TV - do you get headaches watching tv?
Hmm a 60w bulb also strobes, as it is emitting light which has a wavelength .

Light is a wave, so it oscillates like a wave.... It is just that the frequency of the floucescent tubes can be noticeable.
An LED unit is not noticeable, and don't buy cheap ones because they do fail quick.

You seem to be labouring under a misconception here.

A light source does not 'strobe' because of the frequency of the light. That is vastly higher than a frequency where anyone could detect strobing.

Lights 'strobe' at much lower frequencies - mains one at 100 Hz. You are unlikely to notice at this frequency (unless you are looking at a cyclically moving object) - people who complain about fluorescent lights are usually complaining about some flickering that is occurring at a much lower frequency.

paddyrg

Azari wrote: »

Lights 'strobe' at much lower frequencies - mains one at 100 Hz. You are unlikely to notice at this frequency (unless you are looking at a cyclically moving object) - people who complain about fluorescent lights are usually complaining about some flickering that is occurring at a much lower frequency.

This is correct. However it's when you turn your head and get the strobing that it makes you (well me at least) feel quite ill! It's quite noticible at 100Hz (although many LED lamps are actually at 50Hz as they are half-wave rectified by the very 'D = diode' nature of LEDs).

I actually prefer *good* modern fluorescent systems which use a decent electronic ballast as they up the flicker speed to well over 400Hz, upto some kHz.