Pushing an uninsusred car

Eric_Pisch

Can you push a car on a public road if the car has no insurance?

Its not sorn although it probably should be (the cars in legal limbo as its in probate, ownership is disputed, cant insure it as we are not the registered keeper)

PsiDOC

In a word, no.
If it's not insured it should not touch the public highway in any way shape or form. Trailer it to where it needs to be.

redped

From http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/Motorinsurance/DG_067630:

"You have to have motor insurance before you can drive your vehicle in a public place. Motor insurance protects you, your vehicle and other motorists against liability in the event of any accident. It provides financial compensation to cover any injuries caused to people or their property."

I wouldn't say pushing a car is the same as "driving", so I wouldn't agree that you require insurance, otherwise you could claim that insurance would be required for pushing a wheelbarrow from one garden to another on the other side of the road.

How far are you talking about pushing this car? 100 yards down a road? Does your own car insurance allow you to drive other vehicles? If so, then could you use that insurance to cover you if something happened and the police claimed you actually did need insurance?

bigjl.

redped wrote: »

I wouldn't say pushing a car is the same as "driving", so I wouldn't agree that you require insurance, otherwise you could claim that insurance would be required for pushing a wheelbarrow from one garden to another on the other side of the road.

Since when has a wheel barrow been a motor vehicle?

If you're in charge of the braking, propulsiom and steering your driving and therefore need insurance.

scheming_gypsy

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

cant insure it as we are not the registered keeper)

course you can. That's like saying you pick your new car up because you can't get it insured because it's in the old owners name.
Just get yourself a 24 hour policy so it's insured to be moved.

s_b

reading original post car in legal limbo so i would be concerned about getting arrested for theft as well as no tax no insurance and no mot

if all parties agree i would suggest a recovery company is used to move it to a safe haven

PsiDOC

redped wrote: »

From http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/Motorinsurance/DG_067630:

"You have to have motor insurance before you can drive your vehicle in a public place. Motor insurance protects you, your vehicle and other motorists against liability in the event of any accident. It provides financial compensation to cover any injuries caused to people or their property."

Oh dear, another one.
Here's a link to the express news item dated may 23rd 2011.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/248238
The bit that applies is quoted below:

From June 20, it will be an offence to keep an uninsured vehicle on public land or the !highway. An advertising campaign is being launched today warning of the penalties.
Currently, it is only an offence to drive without insurance. But the new law will allow the police to seize uninsured parked vehicles.

In laymans term this means that ALL vehicles on the public property, not necessarily roads have to be insured to a minimum of a 3rd party risk. Irrespective of wether it is parked, abandoned, driven, pushed, towed, dragged, half in bits, work in progress, being done up or burned out.

Granted pushing it up the road would make an easy collar for the old bill mind.

Trailer it. It's the only way.

scheming_gypsy

actually, the easiest way will be to have a word with a friendly garage. They'll have traders insurance to drive any car and a set of trade plates to bang on it

PsiDOC

Provided it's Mot'ed. Trade plates only cover no road tax.
Either that or book it in for an MOT at the garage that picks it up

Hammyman

PsiDOC wrote: »

Provided it's Mot'ed. Trade plates only cover no road tax.

Wrong. There is more than one grade of trade plate. One covers tax and insurance and is used by platers and car sales. The other is a workshop one that also covers no MOT as well as tax and insurance.

vaio

PsiDOC wrote: »

Oh dear, another one.
Here's a link to the express news item dated may 23rd 2011.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/248238
The bit that applies is quoted below:

From June 20, it will be an offence to keep an uninsured vehicle on public land or the !highway. An advertising campaign is being launched today warning of the penalties.
Currently, it is only an offence to drive without insurance. But the new law will allow the police to seize uninsured parked vehicles. .

In laymans term this means that ALL vehicles on the public property, not necessarily roads have to be insured to a minimum of a 3rd party risk. Irrespective of wether it is parked, abandoned, driven, pushed, towed, dragged, half in bits, work in progress, being done up or burned out.

Granted pushing it up the road would make an easy collar for the old bill mind.

Trailer it. It's the only way.

I’ve got a bit of a gippy tummy so don’t want to risk reading a Daily Express article but if you’ve quoted it correctly it’s up to their normal journalistic standard i.e. completely & utterly wrong.

It has been an offence to leave an uninsured car on the highway since God was a boy, nothing to do with driving. The law doesn’t actually say “driving” rather it says “using” which has long been held to include being parked and would also include pushing.