Someone tried to steal my car now I'm worried

Jinx

It is a difficult one isnt it..... I am completely on the OPs side and would prob have done the same, however, bigger picture - it is only a car, an object, replaceable ultimately, no matter how much it is worth - and not worth getting killed over....

Valli

PinkKiwi wrote: »

Isn't our justice system something to be proud of!

Justice system hasn't come into play though. The alleged thief (and assault victim) was offered the chance to press charges. He declined. Had he taken the police up on their offer the justice system might well have found the OP guilty of assault. Or they may not.
On the other hand the Police could have brought charges against the alleged thief - though chances are the CPS would have decided against bringing the case to court.

Either way neither the OP or alleged thief haven't been 'taken into' the justice system.

Not saying I agree with any of this though - and rather wish I'd been there to see it because I bet it looked bloody funny!

yvonne13_2

Jinx wrote: »

It is a difficult one isnt it..... I am completely on the OPs side and would prob have done the same, however, bigger picture - it is only a car, an object, replaceable ultimately, no matter how much it is worth - and not worth getting killed over....

Your right and that's the reason I didn't let him see me. If I would have walked up to him god knows what would have happened plus I didn't know if there were others around the corner hence why I went out the back door. I live opposite a police man and if I would have knocked on his door the robbing s**t would have seen me.

3v3

pupsicola wrote: »

This poster has got to be the waster who stole your car OP. Only someone on that level could justify what happened to you and the way the police didn't deal with it by the above.

For pity sake he was stealing her car. Alot of people rely on their cars to get to and from work and its their only way of being able to make a living.

Flipping do gooders who are on the side of criminals make me so :mad:

Hardly original when I'd already said someone would come up with that chestnut

3v3 wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Next you'll be thinking I am the guy the OP assaulted

How do *you* know he was stealing her car?????? You only have the OP's word for it!

Who said I was on the side of the criminal? Hang on, wait, which "criminal" are we talking about here? It's all about perspective. The OP admits a criminal offense of assaulting someone: the OP states, the person claimed not to have been in the process of stealing it

yvonne13 wrote:

He said he saw the car rolling down the street with no-one in it and was trying to stop it crashing.

Clearly the Police (who witnessed the assault) didn't believe there was enough evidence (in law!) to arrest the guy and the OP is very fortunate that she wasn't arrested herself (but that's only because the guy didn't choose to press it further) as her assault was witnessed by Police.

Think about it just for a moment:
What if (if!) the guy was telling the truth?
He doesn't fit the usual car thief/joy rider profile (middle aged; *pushing* the vehicle, slowly enough that more than 2 phonecalls were made by the neighbour and still was clearly in sight of the OP's back door! - why not hot wire it? - didn't retaliate when the OP was slapping him repeatedly around the head? Gears in "reverse"??). Hardly the actions of a determined car thief!

From her back door, the OP *thought* it was a "lad"; it later transpired it was a man of middle age! We don't know the description the neighbour gave (in the dark) of the person or if, indeed, the description given by the neighbour matched that of the middle aged man? (Bearing in mind even the OP was inaccurate in her assumption it was a lad).

The "level" I am on is quite simple: many people on this thread are jumping to conclusions in the same way the OP did. I'd rather stand back from the emotion of it and read what is written, not what I think is written. While many of you are band-wagon jumping, I prefer to take a less lynch-mob mentality!

And think for a moment ... even the Police didn't arrest him ... but, rather than consider it might be because they ran a person check, had the prior knowledge of the neighbours description, the man's "reasoning" for what he was doing ...you think its a simple matter that the Police were somehow lacking?

What if, the descriptions *didn't* match, the guy has no previous history of wrong-doing, his explanation is plausable? Just because the OP isn't privvy to that information, doesn't mean the Police were not - and they were the one's who made the judgement *not* to arrest the man!

Likewise, they made a decision *not* to arrest the OP, because the victim of the assault wouldn't pursue it.

pupsicola wrote: »

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Flipping do gooders who are on the side of criminals make me so :mad:

And people who don't look at things from a more than one perspective have the same effect on me We'll agree to disagree, shall we? No name calling required

victory

Jinx wrote: »

It is a difficult one isnt it..... I am completely on the OPs side and would prob have done the same, however, bigger picture - it is only a car, an object, replaceable ultimately, no matter how much it is worth - and not worth getting killed over....

It is the principal though, my son's just got back in and told us that these hoody teenagers were after his bycicle sure tell the son to walk away, don't confront them, you are more important than a bike, etc but I paid good money for that and it was his birthday present why these low lifes think they can go around and take what other people have worked for is beyond a joke

ceridwen

j.e.j. wrote: »

3v3 I just find that logic completely warped.

OK put yourself in the thief's shoes: I've seen a car got into it, am about to drive off in it when this woman comes along and starts smacking me.

Hardly on a moral high ground is he??:rotfl:

I guess like with many things it's a case of 1)what the law says and 2) what's right in principle, and these two things don't necessarily coincide.

QUITE:T

..and I'd have probably taken a few hard kicks at his ankles whilst I was on the subject if I were the O.P and hope I broke them for him.

I dont care whose "side" the law is on - its supposed to be on the side of the one who is in the right (and, in this case, it means O.P.).

j.e.j.

3v3 wrote: »

which "criminal" are we talking about here? It's all about perspective. The OP admits a criminal offense of assaulting someone: the OP states, the person claimed not to have been in the process of stealing it

(S)he's definitely his lawyer !!

yvonne13_2

3v3,

I am going to spell this out to you as you are clearly painting a picture in your mind that doesn't exist.

I live 5 blocks down a street, my neighbour a woman stayed on the phone to the police watching and telling them what was going on whist the s**t was robbing my car, it was her husband that rang me on my mobile whilst I was in bed. My back door is at the back of the house hence it being called a back door. At the back door you cannot see the front and you have to walk down or in my case run down the whole 5 blocks to get out as it is gated.

I live in a neighbour watch area and most of us have cameras fitted front and back. So your saying my camera lied, my neighbours lied, even the Dr's that lives at the end house his camera was lying.

The reason I thought it was a young lad was due to the clothes he was wearing, as I said it was when I saw his face I realised he was middle aged either that or he ages quickly.

Anyway my neighbours and I have given our recordings over to the policeman that lives opposite and he are going to keep an eye out for this man as he is known to the police.

RacyRed

3v3 wrote: »

Clearly the Police (who witnessed the assault) didn't believe there was enough evidence (in law!) to arrest the guy

Really?

Did the police do any sort of checking on the guy at the time OP?

Check with your neighbour maybe to see if the guy's clothes were the same as the person seem opening your car door and taking it?

Did they ask hm why he was pushing the car away when you caught him, and not doing as any normal person would do, secure the car and call the police?

3v3, there are as many "ifs" on the side of the OP as there are on the potential thief. I worry that your approach could mean that thieves start stealing unlocked cars with pensioners still in the back seat.... Oh wait... they did that last week didn't they.

3v3

yvonne13 wrote: »

3v3,

I am going to spell this out to you as you are clearly painting a picture in your mind that doesn't exist.

The picture painted by *your* words, you mean?

I live 5 blocks down a street, my neighbour a woman stayed on the phone to the police watching and telling them what was going on whist the s**t was robbing my car, it was her husband that rang me on my mobile whilst I was in bed. My back door is at the back of the house hence it being called a back door. At the back door you cannot see the front and you have to walk down or in my case run down the whole 5 blocks to get out as it is gated.

Ah, more info that wasn't included before

I live in a neighbour watch area and most of us have cameras fitted front and back. So your saying my camera lied, my neighbours lied, even the Dr's that lives at the end house his camera was lying.

I haven't accused anyone of lying, yvonne (you did)

The reason I thought it was a young lad was due to the clothes he was wearing, as I said it was when I saw his face I realised he was middle aged either that or he ages quickly.

Chances are then, if you saw his face, he has seen yours (earlier you stated he hadn't)

Anyway my neighbours and I have given our recordings over to the policeman that lives opposite and he are going to keep an eye out for this man as he is known to the police.

How do you know he is known to the Police? (More new information to your post ) Actually, instead of giving it to your neighbour, you would have been better off giving it to the Officer/s who attended at the time. They are the OIC's, not your neighbour