Staffie breed advice?

candygirl

vax2002 wrote: »

A staffie is not a breed dog, it is a mongrel based loosely on the Staffordshire bull terrier, the reason they are called staffies is because they fail the breed standard as most have one type of pit bull or another merged in the blood line.
These dogs are renowned for tendency to attack other dogs and as the Law makes you liable for any damage caused by an attacking dog something to be wary of, however some can be non aggressive.
Despite the bull preached by many staffie owners, the Acid test is that ANY dog that is instantly aggressive towards other dogs is a dog not fit to be near children

:wall::wall::wall::wall:What a load of twaddle:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

EssexHebridean

vax2002 wrote: »

A staffie is not a breed dog, it is a mongrel based loosely on the Staffordshire bull terrier, the reason they are called staffies is because they fail the breed standard as most have one type of pit bull or another merged in the blood line.
These dogs are renowned for tendency to attack other dogs and as the Law makes you liable for any damage caused by an attacking dog something to be wary of, however some can be non aggressive.
Despite the bull preached by many staffie owners, the Acid test is that ANY dog that is instantly aggressive towards other dogs is a dog not fit to be near children

"Staffie" or "Staffy" is simply dog-lovers slang of the full breed name - ie Staffordshire Bull Terrier, in the same way we talk of "Cavvies" "Labs" and "Yorkies". Looking at your posting history, it seems you might do well to stick to posting about areas in which you clearly have some knowledge and expertise, rather than straying all over the place posting provocations and inaccuracies.

candygirl

EssexHebridean wrote: »

"Staffie" or "Staffy" is simply dog-lovers slang of the full breed name - ie Staffordshire Bull Terrier, in the same way we talk of "Cavvies" "Labs" and "Yorkies". Looking at your posting history, it seems you might do well to stick to posting about areas in which you clearly have some knowledge and expertise, rather than straying all over the place posting provocations and inaccuracies.

exactly:T:T:T:T:T

meritaten

vax2002 wrote: »

A staffie is not a breed dog, it is a mongrel based loosely on the Staffordshire bull terrier, the reason they are called staffies is because they fail the breed standard as most have one type of pit bull or another merged in the blood line.
These dogs are renowned for tendency to attack other dogs and as the Law makes you liable for any damage caused by an attacking dog something to be wary of, however some can be non aggressive.
Despite the bull preached by many staffie owners, the Acid test is that ANY dog that is instantly aggressive towards other dogs is a dog not fit to be near children

you obviously know NOTHING about the breed- Staffie is the diminutive name for the Staffordshire Bull Terrier (I know some snobs call them SBTs). Staffies are NOT mongrels! Pit Bull Terriers have only recently crossed into this country and those that breed them are doing so illegally.

katiemay_2

My Staffy puppy is nearly 6 months old and is the loveliest natured, most affectionate dog that I have ever owned. I have not had a Staffy before and to be honest was a little wary of them until I was introduced to my puppy's father, who is the most sweet natured, placid, well-trained dog I have ever met (yes, even more so than my own in the past). So when I found out he had sired a litter I knew I had to have one. I think if you know the parents, like their temperament, and are prepared to put in the time socialising your new puppy then they can be the perfect dog. My baby has played off the lead with other dogs from the minute she could after her second injection, and it has paid dividends. We also put in the time to complete the Kennel Club Puppy Foundation course, and I now get compliments all of the time regarding her good behaviour for her age.

blue_monkey_2

We have a 2 yo staff cross and a blue staff. The blue was in a litter where the breeder had her with his children from the day they were born, we thought this was perfect but she can be a little grouchy when it comes to the kids cuddling her and she is not a cuddly dog at all, she will growl and run away - even with us. Quite a shock when you have another dog that loves nothing than to be used as a beanbag and it worried us to start with but it is all about reading body language and now we know when she is more likely to be grouchy. We also trained them so that food could be removed, they are not allowed to touch food unless told too. They are greedy little things, I've now invested in bins for the food as I'd find them with their heads in the food bags.

Pup is also scared of cats, cars and the dark. For a staff she is a complete wimp!! She is not aggressive to strange people or dogs but she still mouths and nips a lot - a habit I am trying to get her out of but it is VERY hard when other people let her 'because she is a puppy'. Won't be so cute when she is 3 though so I tell people to stop it.

Training is an absolute must, as is early socialisation, IMO. We used to walk through town daily so she saw other people, kids, buggys, bikes, cars - anything to get her used to them. It's a small price to pay, we have also gone through the Foundation Bronze and are part way through the silver (although she is so scared of going in the car and will not bring a ball back to me, so I am not sure we will get there).

She is not the slightest bit interested playing ball, my other staff cross has a rubbish recall and is walked on the lead.

I would say they are quite hard to train and you need to be very firm with them. While they are easy to please, they are also quite jumpy and will jump up at other people which you really want to discourage - even some people here say they are like Kangaroos - for me this is a no-no because no-one wants a 25kg staff bounding up at them, it is dangerous when there are children around. They end up getting knocked over and the dog will try and lick them and they get scared forever, it is not worth the risk, even as a puppy it is important that it is not encouraged, so we have a no touching unless sitting rule. The earlier you put this in place the easier it is to manage. But I have had some people in town ask me 'why' when I have said not to touch her yet, I said 'because she is my dog and I said so - I do not want her jumping up'. Now she scoots along behind you while sitting, LOL. She loves children to bits and will lie on her back for a tummy rub, they are rubbish guard dogs though and give it up for anyone. And if she jumps around when I am talking or someone wants to stroke her, I put my foot on the lead so she cannot jump up. She will learn..... one day!

What you have to remember is that all dogs are different, not all of them are going to be placid, not all of them are going to want to be cuddled, however, you can ensure your dog is well socialised and trained as early as possible. While you can learn about the kind of dog they are, we cannot tell you that your dog is going to be good natured and will not bite anyone, because as with people, they have their own personalities, you just have to ensure you train the dog properly and you are the key to this - and I do not think a staff is one of the easiest of dogs to train and it takes a lot of perseverence as they can be quite stubborn at times.

blue_monkey_2

Oh just to add, sorry you got a lynching about getting a rescue, it happens all the time when someone wants a pup, especially a staffy, however, if the OP did not house this one I am pretty sure that it will be in a rescue in a few months time too, at least if she gets it and trains it early there are less chances of it having behaviour problems through being ignored and having to be PTS.

Ignorant owners are why we have so many of these unwanted puppies, it is not the dog or the puppies fault, all we can do as new owners is ensure that we get ours done. You will never be able to make everyone have their dogs done, there will always be people who will not look after their dogs properly - even if they were licensed it would still happen and there would still be lots of them in rescue centres.

hethmar

I dont think anyone lynched the OP about homing a dog - the point was that her husband's friend needed to neuter his dogs to avoid more of these "accidents". As 8000/9000 dogs are currently pts every year, the less being born unwanted the better.

blue_monkey_2

hethmar wrote: »

I dont think anyone lynched the OP about homing a dog - the point was that her husband's friend needed to neuter his dogs to avoid more of these "accidents". As 8000/9000 dogs are currently pts every year, the less being born unwanted the better.

You and I know that but the litter of puppies is not the OP's fault and people were having a go at her for it and that is unfair. If she chooses not to rehome the puppy then they will either go to someone else (who may be unsuitable) or it'll end up in a rescue and need rehoming.

What do we do with all the puppies that someone has made their dog have, anyway? The puppies are not going to stop, rehoming a stray s going to leave another pup who is going to end up needing rehoming.

The responsible of us dog owners will be having their dogs neutered which helps - however there are always going to be ignorant dog owners who think it cute for their dog to have pups, that is the fault of that person who wants one so it is not fair to have a go at them. An older dog is not suitable for every home and some organisations will not even rehome dogs if you have children under a certain age - it is not fair everyone who mentions getting a pup, get's lynched for it. It happens every time, I am surprised people still mention getting one on this board tbh.

meritaten

I agree with every word you just said blue_monkey! instead of congratulating people on rehoming rescue dogs or taking on a non-pedigree dog from a litter - they get treated vilely!

Why do people breed certain breeds so excessively? pure economics! A breed becomes popular and people cannot resist bragging about how much they paid for 'King Dog of Whatisplace' and suddenly there is a population explosion of that breed!
there were hardly any staffies around at the time I had Anni - ten years later virtually every 'hard' guy had one! the savvier ones got !!!!!es and had a fine time making money off the pups! puppy farming on a small scale! now you have a hard time giving them away as the decline in standards along with the crossing of the PBT have given a fine breed a bad rep!

Of course some of you on this board are complete and utter snobs about dogs and pedigrees, and think that 'ordinary' people who in many cases are struggling to make ends meet, should'nt be allowed to own pets anyway - funnily enough these people tend to be the first to put their views forward and by the time they have finished most new posters get discouraged and are never heard from again!