grown up child at home

Mojisola

Marisco wrote: »

Yes, but do they all live at home and sponge off their parents, or do they cough up their JSA as board? There's no doubt the job situations in some places are dire, but nonetherless, they should be paying something towards their keep. I think (depending on age) the single JSA is 65ish quid a week, not sure about the "younger" rate, but all 4 of them should be giving the "worker" at least 40 quid a week out of it!!

And doing all the washing, cleaning, cooking, shopping, gardening and DIY around the house!

j.e.j.

Marisco wrote: »

Yes, but do they all live at home and sponge off their parents, or do they cough up their JSA as board?

I don't like to pry, tbh.

I will say this, though. The person involved is the only one I've ever heard who openly admits that his generation (he's about 65 I guess) 'had it easy'. University education was free, and you really could walk out of one job and into another back then. Things are very different now.

But this is turning into discussion time, rather than actually answering the OP's question, so I'll leave it there :rotfl:

elvis86

j.e.j. wrote: »

I don't like to pry, tbh.

I will say this, though. The person involved is the only one I've ever heard who openly admits that his generation (he's about 65 I guess) 'had it easy'. University education was free, and you really could walk out of one job and into another back then. Things are very different now.

But this is turning into discussion time, rather than actually answering the OP's question, so I'll leave it there :rotfl:

I would argue that certain people maybe had it easier. University education may have been free, but it was actually limited to those who showed genuine talent and potential. Now, whilst it may no longer be free (though the student loans system seems very fair to me, nobody starves because their student loan repayments are so crippling), it seems that anyone who can obtain mediocre A-level grades can obtain a loan to go to a university somewhere.

What I don't believe existed for people of that generation, was the option to pop out a few kids, without a thought of how one might support them, safe in the knowledge that the state would see to it that you were housed and provided with benefits to feed and clothe them.:cool:

Marisco

This reminds me of posts on DT, where "baby boomers" have apparently ruined things for generations that came after!!! Load of tosh like, but it makes for lively discussions

gunsandbanjos

I called troll at the OP not you Elvis.

New users who don't return to their thread after starting it generally live under bridges.

the_cat

gunsandbanjos wrote: »

I called troll at the OP not you Elvis.

New users who don't return to their thread after starting it generally live under bridges.

Fair point and happens often I know

Only trouble is a new poster who might have had any number of reasons to go offline (eg go to work to earn the crust for 6 adults!) will be put off coming back if they are automatically labelled a troll

thorsoak

Dear Green111

There are lots of surmises and suppositions here - if we are to advise you and give you good, positive advice, we need more information. For example - are there disabilities in the family? What benefits do you all receive? Any? None? Once we have this information, we could possibily give you more focussed advice.

As things stand, I would assume that you have a wife and four teenage-plus children in your household, and none of them are in paid employment. Presumably, your wife/partner has stayed home as a home-maker whilst the children were young, and now finds the prospect of employment daunting. Have your children completed their education? As they are not in employment -are they what is now termed as part of the NEET generation (not in employment/education/training)?

If so, what steps are THEY taking to improve their situation? It really is up to them now. If they are over the age of 18, particularly so. In any case, if they are in receipt of any benefits, they are now old enough to contribute to the family budget.

I would suggest that you sit everybody down, and let them know exactly what the household outgoings are, and ask what they are prepared to contribute to it? If they are unwilling to contribute anything - then its time for tough love - and time to show them the door.

You may well feel a moral obligation to support them - but they have a moral obligation to support themselves, and if you are trying, on one person's wages, to support the whole damn lot of them - then you are doing them - and yourself and partner - absolutely no favours!

mildred1978

The OP has known about this for some time (almost 2.5 years) and clearly done naff all about it

green111 wrote: »

something the benefits people dont seem to take into consideration is what happens when a child leaves full time education. They can claim jobseekers, which maybe pays for a bus pass and some food, but all the other expense of living is incurred by the parents, who can no longer claim anything to help support the new adult living in their home for free.
If you have several children and they cannot find work, then you could have to clothe, feed and supply electricity etc. to a house full of adults with no financial help at all..
this is the problem I now face, with one child out of college and unemployed, and another soon to join him, our finances are soon to be stretched beyond breaking point.

Their JSA should be plenty to cover food and bills. By the sounds of it they're blowing it on wine, women and song and getting away with it.

desert_rose

These days, young people seem to extend their youth into adult-hood and I do know what I'm talking about here! A bit of a generalisation but I've found with my two (early and mid thirties), its only very recently that they've grasped the idea that mum isn't there solely to provide and its been (for them) a very difficult transition.

Would suggest that you back off as far as you can - give them the means to succeed in any way that you can - but try to live your life not theirs.

Easier said than done I know!

jellyhead

I don't know much about benefits but has the amount of money coming in actually changed?

A low income family with a teenager in college the government gives you up to 53-ish (tax credits and child benefit) each to look after them. You decide how much pocket money you give them.

When they leave college the government gives the 53-ish to them. How much pocket money you leave them with out of that is up to you.

If they are not your kids then perhaps there was some maintenance which has now stopped, but that would also mean there's another parent to farm some of them out to.

£53 buys a lot more than a bus pass and some food. There are people on JSA paying their own bills for water, gas, electricity, insurance, TV license, clothes etc. as well as bus fare and food.