am i being an unreasonable landlord?

elvis86

mirrorimage0 wrote: »

thanks for the replys people, i havent been sneaky at all, he knew when he moved in that it was probably only for a yr lease, when i spoke to him about decorating the place, i told him it was with a view to sell so he knows all this upfront, i also asked if he would like the place done up whilst he was living in it so it was nice for him for a while to which he said yes.

we dont have a problem with doing the work once he has moved out and losing the rental income for a couple of months, we also told him this but thats also why he has had a decreased rent for a yr.

im just on my way up there now to have a chat so will see what the outcome is.

possible solitions i will put to him, is letting him know how long each room will take, and in what order they are to be done in. or we will finish off the hallway and spare room and leave it till he has vacated.

maybe he just didnt realise how it would look whilst being done, he did mention that he feels he cant bring girls back whilst it is being done so i think this may be the only issue. as we clean up every day before leaving so it isnt left dusty or anything and have also taken a lot of his junk down to the tip that he wanted rid off as we were going there anyway.

will update later on how it went. like i said in the op it may just be me being hormonal. lol

ps can i also add that we know he is having a week off work at the end of sep with a view to going to visit his parents and we offered to pay his train fare as then we could do the kitchen in that week so he wouldnt be without a working kitchen. we also offered that if he is there when we do the kitchen we would pay for takeaways for the week.

like i said we have no problem waiting until he has left in jan but offered to do it now so it was nice whilst he was there.

That sounds incredibly generous!

Doesn't sound like you've been sneaky at all. Perhaps the option of finishing what you've started and leaving the rest til after he moves out will be best all round and less stressful for you!

nikki2804

Can you be my LL please? It took my LL 8 months to sort out guttering that fell in November 2010 !!:rotfl:

colli

mirrorimage0 wrote: »

thanks for the replys people, i havent been sneaky at all, he knew when he moved in that it was probably only for a yr lease, when i spoke to him about decorating the place, i told him it was with a view to sell so he knows all this upfront, i also asked if he would like the place done up whilst he was living in it so it was nice for him for a while to which he said yes.

we dont have a problem with doing the work once he has moved out and losing the rental income for a couple of months, we also told him this but thats also why he has had a decreased rent for a yr.

im just on my way up there now to have a chat so will see what the outcome is.

possible solitions i will put to him, is letting him know how long each room will take, and in what order they are to be done in. or we will finish off the hallway and spare room and leave it till he has vacated.

maybe he just didnt realise how it would look whilst being done, he did mention that he feels he cant bring girls back whilst it is being done so i think this may be the only issue. as we clean up every day before leaving so it isnt left dusty or anything and have also taken a lot of his junk down to the tip that he wanted rid off as we were going there anyway.

will update later on how it went. like i said in the op it may just be me being hormonal. lol

ps can i also add that we know he is having a week off work at the end of sep with a view to going to visit his parents and we offered to pay his train fare as then we could do the kitchen in that week so he wouldnt be without a working kitchen. we also offered that if he is there when we do the kitchen we would pay for takeaways for the week.

like i said we have no problem waiting until he has left in jan but offered to do it now so it was nice whilst he was there.

In that case it sounds like you've been more than fair. Try not to worry about it too much and concentrate on getting ready for your new arrival!

evoke

I've re-read this thread a couple of times now and i can see both points of view now (rare for me, I know).

OP: do the honourable thing and just let him off a full month's rent for the upheaval. Forget about all the small niceties that you're considering offering. You could just tell him that he doesn't need to pay the last month's rent. End of.

To be fair to him, he probaby underestimated the level of disruption a full refurbishment causes. And you are doing this whilst getting paid rent.

As I said, do the honourable thing to keep things sweet. Or put him up at a nice hotel when he wants a night with his bird. Men have needs, you know. LOL.

TeamLowe

if bringing young ladies back is his issue, I'd suggest explaining to him that a lot of ladies love a guy who can do a bit of DIY and look like they can take care of things

if he took the credit for the work, maybe a few fibs about how he's doing it as a favour to his old lady widow landlord, it might actually help him

that's if the girl is sober. if she's drunk then she won't mind anyway x x

clutton_2

As a LL i think you are being more than generous.... you have reduced the rent so that he can decorate - (and you will have lost £720 in a year) - and he has not decorated. Dont even think about giving him any more rent free time......

He knew the deal when he moved in - he knew the timescales of the tenancy - you were upfront with him.

If he doesn't want any more mess, then leave it as it is now. Wait till he's gone and then it will be far easier to paint an empty property.

concentrate on the baby - and good luck

if you want a good landlords forum try propertytribes.ning.com

seven-day-weekend

I think he should stop whingeing. He agreed to have the work done. I would just finish off the rooms you've started and leave it.

globetraveller

clutton wrote: »

As a LL i think you are being more than generous.... you have reduced the rent so that he can decorate - (and you will have lost £720 in a year) - and he has not decorated. Dont even think about giving him any more rent free time......

He knew the deal when he moved in - he knew the timescales of the tenancy - you were upfront with him.

If he doesn't want any more mess, then leave it as it is now. Wait till he's gone and then it will be far easier to paint an empty property.

concentrate on the baby - and good luck



if you want a good landlords forum try propertytribes.ning.com

thats not what the OP says. He got the reduction because it hadn't been decorated- he didn't have to decorate.
I think if you were happy to have 2 months of no rent while you did the property up then you should be really happy with one month. The work is not for his benefit after all. Put yourself in his position.
I think he was a bit silly to agree to all the upheaval but perhaps he just didn't realise how bad it was going to be.

Svenena

I agree with evoke and globetraveller. He probably didn't realise how disruptive it would be, and also didn't want to annoy you as his landlady. I think what you have offered is generous, but letting him off rent for a month would probably sweeten him up and you would both end up happy - it can't be very comfortable having people in your home every day, and you will get the work done and dusted.

dodger1

If tenant knew it would be eight weeks and agreed then tough. However eight weeks seems ridiculous, when I sold my two bed house several years ago I had a new kitchen fitted, new bathroom fitted and every room decorated in two weeks using one carpenter, one plumber and his mate and two decorators. However as I said, he agreed to the terms so tough for him.