Bathroom Redecorating: Can you Tile Over Tiles?

27col

I've tiled over tiles in my kitchen at least 10 years ago. Absolutely no problems whatsoever. Just used the same adhesive as for the original tiles.

evoke

^ Are you a bathroom fitter by trade?

cddc

Maybe the fitter is trying to price to the OP's budget.

She is, after all, shopping at B&Q and not CP Hart!

If so, and it can be done without compromising the finish and watertightness (is that a word?) of the job. Then why not?

It would be the fitters problem if it is not.

tpt

it happens a lot and there are positives(cost) and negatives (bond is only as good as the existing tiles bond, extra thickness can look strange next to architraves etc).

Lots of adhesives will stick very well to existing tiles, but if your existing tiles come off, so do your new ones so only consider it if the existing tiles are solid.

You also may need to consider the tiles that you are buying as if they are large/heavy then its very likely you will go over the maximum weight a plastered wall can support - there is a limit and its surprisingly low.

All in all, its a calculated risk offset by your budget. Most tilers would suggest its better to strip out and start again, and they are right but it can turn into a big job.

If you do strip out, dont replaster. Just dryline it with moisture resistant plasterboard and aqua board\backerboard in the wet areas, then prime and tile straight onto that.

keystone

cddc wrote: »

Then why not?

because from a professional POV its a bodge thats why.

It would be the fitters problem if it is not.

What would? Oh perhaps I see - if it did compromise the watertightness and finish it would be the fitters problem to sort out at his cost. But the fitter isn't a tiler so then it becomes the tilers problem? Oh no I don't think so. This is a typical DIY shed approach, flog the gear and if its an all inclusive price screw the fitter on the price he gets paid (fraction of what the customer gets charged) and its all down to him when it goes wrong. If its supply only, just run away and blame the fitter anyway.

I wonder if the Floggit and Leggit School of Shed Showroom Selling gives nice certificates?

Cheers

cddc

keystone wrote: »

because from a professional POV its a bodge thats why.

What would? Oh perhaps I see - if it did compromise the watertightness and finish it would be the fitters problem to sort out at his cost. But the fitter isn't a tiler so then it becomes the tilers problem? Oh no I don't think so. This is a typical DIY shed approach, flog the gear and if its an all inclusive price screw the fitter on the price he gets paid (fraction of what the customer gets charged) and its all down to him when it goes wrong. If its supply only, just run away and blame the fitter anyway.

I wonder if the Floggit and Leggit School of Shed Showroom Selling gives nice certificates?

Cheers

As tpt says its a compromise, normally budget lead and these are the MSE forums after all. You have not seen the job or the budget and nor have I. It is up to the fitter and his tiler to view it and judge if in this case it would work, and for the OP to accept the compromise. Therefore down to fitter and his tiler to sort if it goes wrong.

As for the all inclusive packages from sheds and what the fitters get paid and what the store charges, well that depends who you are talking about.

The size of the premium, and the cut the company take varies wildly from place to place. So does what a fitter gets paid.

The consumer always pays some kind of premium for a service like that and you would always get a better overall deal by sourcing your own reputable fitter. Any store led supply and fit deal will always be more expensive than sourcing the two seperately, thats not just the sheds but the independents who offer it as well.

olly300

SarahBrown8360 wrote: »

I have never heard of someone doing this but I was wondering if anyone else had? Would love to get someone's opinion on whether it is feasible. Obviously it sounds much easier then taking the old tiles off but I don't want problems later on...

You can do it but one of the problems which a mate of mine found out is when you want to change the bathroom again.

It's very difficult to get rid of 2 thicknesses of well adhered tiles.

Getting one layer of tiles of the wall is actually easy (but noisy) and you can do it yourself saving money. The quotes I got indicated removal of tiles etc was more expensive then getting them fitted.

The main issue I had was disposal I was only allowed two bags per time at the tip and had to make 3 trips on different days.

One thing though is depending on what your internal walls are made off the plumber/tiler may not like you removing it for them as you could leave a big mess.

keystone

cddc wrote: »

As tpt says its a compromise, normally budget lead and these are the MSE forums after all. You have not seen the job or the budget and nor have I. It is up to the fitter and his tiler to view it and judge if in this case it would work, and for the OP to accept the compromise. Therefore down to fitter and his tiler to sort if it goes wrong.

Seeing as you now phrase it that way I agree entirely provided the fitter and the tiler accept the associated risk and the inevitable conbsequences. If they were to say Ok I don't want to do it this way because ...... and the client insists that they do and it looks pants (which 9/10 it will) is that then the tilers responsbility to sort out at his expense?

However from a professional viewpoint I still see it as a bodge. From a DIY perspective it may not be - I have already said that way earlier up the thread. I would be extremely unhappy if a professional bodyshop decided to repaint my slightly dinged wing on the motor with a paint which was not exactly the same colour as the original on a "thats close enough" basis. I might be happy to make a small touch up a tiny bit myself using a paint that didn't exactly match.

As for the all inclusive packages from sheds and what the fitters get paid and what the store charges, well that depends who you are talking about.

Indeed it does. I was just having a general rant.

Cheers

cddc

keystone wrote: »

If they were to say Ok I don't want to do it this way because ...... and the client insists that they do and it looks pants (which 9/10 it will) is that then the tilers responsbility to sort out at his expense?

Of course not! But this is not the case here, is it? As you a rather fond of saying to others, read the OP!

And we all need a rant sometimes......

Cheers

keystone

cddc wrote: »

Of course not!

Thank you.

But this is not the case here, is it?

In terms of the OP's question no. In terms of a response you made which I felt required some clarification then yes.

As you a rather fond of saying to others, read the OP!

Don't be childish and in any event such isn't that relevant. My question was to you in response to your post.

And we all need a rant sometimes......

Indeed.

Cheers