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Parking Charge Notice - Advice needed please.
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Notamondayfan
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Hey all.
I received a parking ticket though the post yesterday, and would like your opinions please.
Basically about 3 weeks ago, we went down to Wolverhampton and used a pay and display car park (Snow Hill) and it was one of those that you have to type your reg into when paying.
Anyway, we paid for 90 mins on the ticket, and was back before the ticket expired. We can't find the ticket as it happened a few weeks ago, so cannot be 100% sure what was actually paid, and it doesn't state this on the fine either.
If we did out stay 90mins, we feel very harshly done by, as the ticket states she was there for 92 mins! But my main point is that the cameras record the time the car enters and leaves the car park, so I'm thinking that it could take at least over 2 mins to find a space, park up, and go to the machine, then also to vacate the space, drive to the exit and leave.
Also the ticket says the fine is for not displaying a valid ticket, not for not paying for a ticket, or overrunning on the allotted time.
Can I also request further evidence, as all they are showing me is that my car entered and left the car park at those times? It's just bugging me that this arrives 3 weeks after our visit, and it's pretty unreasonable to keep hold of every car park receipt in case they are needed for proof against fines.
Anyway, here is the ticket (sorry my links arent allowed, so please delete the spaces) ...
http: // s5.photobucket. com / albums/ y184 / notamondayfan/
I would like your opinions if you think I can appeal or I should just pay the £60.
Any help would be really appreciated!
Thanks, Dean
I received a parking ticket though the post yesterday, and would like your opinions please.
Basically about 3 weeks ago, we went down to Wolverhampton and used a pay and display car park (Snow Hill) and it was one of those that you have to type your reg into when paying.
Anyway, we paid for 90 mins on the ticket, and was back before the ticket expired. We can't find the ticket as it happened a few weeks ago, so cannot be 100% sure what was actually paid, and it doesn't state this on the fine either.
If we did out stay 90mins, we feel very harshly done by, as the ticket states she was there for 92 mins! But my main point is that the cameras record the time the car enters and leaves the car park, so I'm thinking that it could take at least over 2 mins to find a space, park up, and go to the machine, then also to vacate the space, drive to the exit and leave.
Also the ticket says the fine is for not displaying a valid ticket, not for not paying for a ticket, or overrunning on the allotted time.
Can I also request further evidence, as all they are showing me is that my car entered and left the car park at those times? It's just bugging me that this arrives 3 weeks after our visit, and it's pretty unreasonable to keep hold of every car park receipt in case they are needed for proof against fines.
Anyway, here is the ticket (sorry my links arent allowed, so please delete the spaces) ...
http: // s5.photobucket. com / albums/ y184 / notamondayfan/
I would like your opinions if you think I can appeal or I should just pay the £60.
Any help would be really appreciated!
Thanks, Dean
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Ooooh that's an easy one...it's not a real fine, Excel issue fake parking tickets like all PPCs (private parking companies). ALWAYS IGNORE THEM.
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/notamondayfan/
You need to read the relevant sticky threads and other threads on the current board to learn more about this scam:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...play.php?f=163
You need to read the top thread first, 'PPC letters, what to expect' because this whole thing is a mail scam, believe me.
The registered keeper of the car will receive some scary debt collector letters! You must ignore them, I know it goes against the grain but you MUST ignore the whole scam even if the letters appear to have come from a solicitor (they have not). You must not contact them nor think there is an appeals process (they lie just to get information).
Just check out that top thread, see what letters the parking company send out and then laugh and play snap with the whole chain as the predictable letters arrive.
Also make sure you click on 'Welcome, please read before posting' (hahahaha, the irony of having to link that thread almost every time!). Read the info about PPCs there and click on the Watchdog link, and I promise you will be convinced. Show your wife what you find.
HTHPRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
IGNORE. Wife says she paid to park, then she paid, and the parking companies' clients suffered no losses whatsoever. Don't bother "appealing". Private parking companies don't give a rat's behind about whether or not you can legitimately appeal the charge, all they want to do is extract money from you. If you appeal, you will receive a computer generated and standard response informing you that you have been unsuccessful. And appealing merely suggests that you accede to some kind of authority, which the company in fact wholly lacks, therefore giving them the impression that you are an easy-target. Oh and don't request evidence, they have no evidence of anything because no offence has been committed!! They would claim that some grainy CCTV photo of the car entering and leaving amounts to evidence for some ridiculous contravention of a rule. Who cares. And worst of all, they'd probably charge you to receive a copy of said, pointless, pictures.
They pretend to have an appeals system to dupe people into thinking you're dealing with an honest, fair and reasonable company. But the sad truth is that they are so very far from being either honest, fair or reasonable. They want your hard-earned cash, not your loyalty or support, and will try all kinds of meaningless scare-tactics to get it from you. So, as they don't play fairly, neither should you and the best course of action is to ignore them. Pure and simple. It costs them money to send the series of threats that they inevitably will. They send a chain of letters in the hope that one of them will srike you as legit/sufficiently intimidating to get you to cough-up. And by this point, the charge has grown to an even more ridiculously inflated charge (not fine!).
As for the law, this is a civil matter covered by contract law. And in England, no private individual is allowed to penalise another. All that one can sue another individual for is money to remedy actual losses. Hence, a private parking companies' charges have been deemed (in court) to be penalties, which have no relation to any losses, and therefore unenforceable. Your wife paid, no losses were incurred by the parking companies' clients and therefore you owe them diddly-squat. Read the Sticky about what to expect in the post AND relax, ignore, ignore and ignore s'more.0
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