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  • Sensemaya
    Sensemaya Posts: 1,739 Forumite
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    Miroslav wrote: »
    So many people say so many things that it confuses me :)

    It's like food - what can you eat these days that is not injected with something that you woudn't want? Even water is varaibale from one source to another.

    My head is spinning :o

    I know the feeling. Going off topic now, but Omar Khayyam got it right!

    :T
  • Miroslav
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    Sensemaya wrote: »
    I know the feeling. Going off topic now, but Omar Khayyam got it right!

    :T

    When I posted this thread, i'd never thought i'd see Omar Khayyam get a mention :rotfl:
  • Eric_Pisch
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    Miroslav wrote: »
    I've always had problems with my skin, although people say my skin is good (!)

    I get lots of little spots after shaving and under my eyes are red. My forehead and chin flake.

    I've been using L'oreal for men and the moisturiser is as good as i've tried.

    I'm looking for a good cleanser, toner and exfoliator. I've tried many but i'm not sure they are all that as they don't get rid of the redness or little spots after shaving and it's annoying me especially now I have a newish partner in my life who has perfect skin and in reality is out of my league.

    Any tips or links to bargains on products that may help me would be appreciated as are others experiences with products on dry sensitive skin.

    Thanks

    i suffered from eczema and especially a flaky scalp for all of my life

    stopped eating wheat/gluten and it went after 3 months, no creams or exfoliants needed now

    go figure
  • Miroslav
    Miroslav Posts: 6,193 Forumite
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    I stopped Wheat and Gluten a while back, but saw no change. I barely eat it now.

    The Dry skin is very minimal now i've started this routine, it's not more about the spots under my skin (as skin is very smooth) and on top of my head, plus the redness. It's annoying and confidence sapping.
  • I would also suggest really stepping back from all of the products and allowing your skin to get back to it's own normality. Kind of reminds me of accidentally putting in a wrong ingredient to a recipe - then adding another one to counteract, then another one to balance that, then another to tone down that ..:p...when really it would be better to start again. Your skin is probably so confused from lots of different products being chopped and changed!!
    I think Jennie has been giving you some really useful advice and would agree with most things posted. I just wanted to add my advice about exfoliating:
    1) Once or twice a week should be more than enough for sensitive flaky skin.
    Miroslav wrote: »
    I've learnt to Cleanse - Exfoliate - Tone - Moisturise (with SPF but if not use sunscreen afterwards).
    2) Your skincare order should be Exfoliate, Cleanse, Tone, Moisturise. Not sure if this was maybe just a mistake in the post though..:o
    3) There is a difference in exfoliators so you may want to bear this in mind when looking for products. Some use natural exfoliants (things like tiny bits of shell, sugar crystals, seeds) which are coarse and irregularly shaped (like a jagged rock), whilst man-made exfoliants are like tiny, regularly-shaped, smooth beads (imagine lots of golf balls). Whilst a lot of people are drawn to natural exfoliants, people with sensitive skin are much better off choosing a man-made exfoliator because the beads are all uniform, and so the scrub is gentler on the skin.

    Also, clay masks work wonders for oily skin as the clay absorbs the surface oils, leaving your skin shine-free. However, because your skin is already dry, this will only make it worse! (If you don't believe me, use the mask on a small patch of your hair - sounds really weird, but it demonstrates what it does to your skin, it soaks up all the oils and after you wash it off your hair is incredibly dry!)
    Instead I would recommend using a cream-based mask but it shouldn't be necessary to use more than once a week. (The Superdrug one looks lovely, but haven't used it so can't comment).
    HTH :)
  • jenniewb
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    Was just wondering how you were getting on- its good to hear things are improving, please be patient and give it a good week or two (two is best) as your skin wont work as fast as we're used to with the rest of our lives!
    The bumps under your skin should start to fade and go down, your body can deal with them but whatever you do, do not pick them! I know for me despite scars dating back to more then half my life ago (scary scary thought!) I still have to talk myself out of picking at the odd spot even if its caused by products- the times I've just left them to fade are definetly the ones that result in no scarring, even if they take a little longer to totally go away (they can turn colour before vanishing).

    Good luck!

    PS, all water is fine, its just whats in the water that is the issue :)
  • aeromint
    aeromint Posts: 28 Forumite
    I have tried lots of stuff, and eventually found Lush products (skin toner etc), and a skin cream called Dr Organic - Manuka Honey Rescue Cream (available from Holland and Barrett's) has worked for me. This is in combination with replacing ordinary milk, with Lactose free milk available from most supermarkets. The change in my skin was noticeable within a few months. I don't know if this will work for you, but you could try it. Hope you find something that works.
  • Miroslav
    Miroslav Posts: 6,193 Forumite
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    jenniewb wrote: »
    Was just wondering how you were getting on- its good to hear things are improving, please be patient and give it a good week or two (two is best) as your skin wont work as fast as we're used to with the rest of our lives!
    The bumps under your skin should start to fade and go down, your body can deal with them but whatever you do, do not pick them! I know for me despite scars dating back to more then half my life ago (scary scary thought!) I still have to talk myself out of picking at the odd spot even if its caused by products- the times I've just left them to fade are definetly the ones that result in no scarring, even if they take a little longer to totally go away (they can turn colour before vanishing).

    Good luck!

    PS, all water is fine, its just whats in the water that is the issue :)

    Sorry, been away for a few days.

    It's going pretty well. I still have small spots under my skin but they aren't as prominent or bumpy. I hope this is a sign of them going away.

    I don't pick spots anyway. The thought of doing so makes me feel queasy :rotfl:

    Yes, it's the chemicals in the water that scare me. I live in a hard water area too.

    All in all though, pretty good at the moment. Still get a few flakes around/under the eyebrows but maybe that's because i'm scared to clean around the eye area and i'm not as thorough? After shaving now I seem to have no dry skin on the 2/3 days after which was a nightmare before.
    aeromint wrote: »
    I have tried lots of stuff, and eventually found Lush products (skin toner etc), and a skin cream called Dr Organic - Manuka Honey Rescue Cream (available from Holland and Barrett's) has worked for me. This is in combination with replacing ordinary milk, with Lactose free milk available from most supermarkets. The change in my skin was noticeable within a few months. I don't know if this will work for you, but you could try it. Hope you find something that works.

    Will make a note of those suggestions. Thanks. I've been thinking of changing milk - I only drink skimmed anyway, but i've not looked too closely into changing - yet!
  • jenniewb
    jenniewb Posts: 12,842 Forumite
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    Miroslav wrote: »
    Sorry, been away for a few days.

    It's going pretty well. I still have small spots under my skin but they aren't as prominent or bumpy. I hope this is a sign of them going away.

    I don't pick spots anyway. The thought of doing so makes me feel queasy :rotfl:

    Yes, it's the chemicals in the water that scare me. I live in a hard water area too.

    All in all though, pretty good at the moment. Still get a few flakes around/under the eyebrows but maybe that's because i'm scared to clean around the eye area and i'm not as thorough? After shaving now I seem to have no dry skin on the 2/3 days after which was a nightmare before.


    Glad to hear things are getting better for your skin :)

    Don't be too concerned about the water- its nor going to cause any harm but it can just be a little drying if your in a hard water area thats all. Tone or even use a facial wipe after cleansing and its not an issue.

    With regards to the eye area, your right to be a TLC with the area, its where the skin is thinner and so more easily damaged. If you just (assuming you are...) continue to lay back on the harsh products, the area should clear up in its own time. I don't think cleaning it any more will help, I would have thought its more likely to be that the skin is reacting to any harsh products.
    Even though you feel you may not have been that intense on the eye area in comparison to the rest of the skin on your face, its such a delicate area it could have just been the smallest things to have thrown it out of kilter.

    I don't know about the skin cell turn over in that area but basicly your waiting for the old skin cells to die off and be renewed with newer cells. Maybe the skin around the eyes has a lower turn over or its just been affected to a much deeper level? (hazarding guesses here!!). I think I remember someone (a skin care worker) telling me you get a different turn over in different parts of your face but not sure as to what and where! Fact is the skin does this all by itself, you just need to support the new skin which grows through by keeping it hydrated and well cared for, clean of debris but able to produce its own oils which I think you can tell now is a delicate balance in itself and slightly different for everyone!

    Had another idea I was wondering if it may help. Only because someone else here mentioned Lush and I have used their products. I bought a face mask to try with my 7yr old neice last week. She has super delicate skin as shes still just a baby really (IMO!) She really wanted to try a mask so I bought one which was what I thought was pretty mild. It was the Oat based one (Oaty-fix?) basicly made from oats and was fine for her, its supposed to me moisturising. Either way it did no harm. I'd still suggest laying off things till the whole thing clears up but maybe a really mild and moisturising facial masque from time to time could help?
  • GemJar_2
    GemJar_2 Posts: 692 Forumite
    A tip my doctor gave me to help with my awful ezcma is to put moisteriser on within 3 minutes of getting out of the bath or shower as the skin locks in a lot more moisture this way.
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