Changing Locks on Problem Tennants

flappy_mcwarbucks

they told her they were working!

It would have to been up to your friend to check the refrences.

they were very niave.

Yes they where.

Fingers crossed they don't go to the council (which they might do to say they have nowhere to live) the council will ask questions then the sh_it will hit the fan.

Getting someone out takes time. You cant just chuck someone out. You need to serve notices, go to court, and then get bailiffs in. To kick someone out without a possession warrent served by bailiffs is a dangerous game.

Sunnylooloo

Yep i know they were just too niave and trusting and now it could or will come back and hit em round the chops.......

Will the council have something to say about the fact this woman is claiming HB yet my friends were never paid from that and it was the BF who paid the rent as and when and never the full amount??

All i know this is going to get very very messy...........................

thanks so much for all the comments - really appreciate it

adouglasmhor

Sunnylooloo wrote: »

Yep i know they were just too niave and trusting and now it could or will come back and hit em round the chops.......

Will the council have something to say about the fact this woman is claiming HB yet my friends were never paid from that No they won't give a stuffand it was the BF who paid the rent as and when and never the full amountIf he was working they may try and get what they paid out back from the woman but your mates will still see none of it??

All i know this is going to get very very messy...........................

thanks so much for all the comments - really appreciate it

I hope your friends are OK and i appreciate this is not normal for them but any threats of violence or vandalism your friends must tell the police and show them the texts - irrespective of all the other factors.

flappy_mcwarbucks

Will the council have something to say about the fact this woman is claiming HB

Well, *if* they go to the council, the first thing the council will ask is "Why are you homeless? And why did you not tell us about the court hearing?". Regardless who is paying the rent (the council will probably have a go at them, sanction them etc if the council have no idea about the partner) if they go to the council, she is in deep faecal matter.

The very least that will happen is that the landlord will be forced to let them back into the property. At that point, you then follow the correct procedure for getting them out.

At this point in time, i'd be tempted to give them the keys, tell them to get in that flat and shut up, then serve a section 21. and don't do anything that they think is clever like un-wiring the plug sockets, turning hot water off etc. Satisfying - yes. But won't do any favours.

Sunnylooloo

Thank you

Yes I have told her to keep proof of all the texts etc .

I have also said let them get their stuff out - but to make sure they always have someone else with them in case anything should happen. and hopefully if they get their bits they might just leave them alone - but some how I think not.

I feel for them so much - they are a young couple just had a baby a year back were struggling so moved back to her parents - rented the house out so they could save up and move on - and it has all turned to rubbish...........

Sunnylooloo

flappy_mcwarbucks wrote: »

Well, *if* they go to the council, the first thing the council will ask is "Why are you homeless? And why did you not tell us about the court hearing?". Regardless who is paying the rent (the council will probably have a go at them, sanction them etc if the council have no idea about the partner) if they go to the council, she is in deep faecal matter.

The very least that will happen is that the landlord will be forced to let them back into the property. At that point, you then follow the correct procedure for getting them out.

At this point in time, i'd be tempted to give them the keys, tell them to get in that flat and shut up, then serve a section 21. and don't do anything that they think is clever like un-wiring the plug sockets, turning hot water off etc. Satisfying - yes. But won't do any favours.

Thanks for this

I will suggest this to them - i know it will kill them to let them back in but this could be so serious if they don't:(

They did serve notice about 3 weeks ago - would you suggest to serve a new section 21?

and yes i will also say what you have said about not doing anything

O she also told me that all the utilities are back in her name not the tennants! as the tennants are in arreas with all of those too!!

It really is a mess eh........

flappy_mcwarbucks

They did serve notice about 3 weeks ago - would you suggest to serve a new section 21?

It depends on the length of the notice. But if one has been served already, then it might be an idea to run down the courts as it should still stand, and then get a hearing date. but there will be a bit of a wait for that. The sooner the better.

she also told me that all the utilities are back in her name not the tennants! as the tennants are in arreas with all of those too!!

Ask her to consider getting the tenants done for identity fraud - you already know where they're living Consider that avenue, as they have used her name to get services. I would.

It really is a mess eh

Pickle. yes.

Sunnylooloo

Thanks

she is coming round tomorrow with the paper work so i can have a proper look.

No she turned the utilities back in her name the moment they changed the locks - maybe not such a smart thing to do.

She has just sent me a text - apparently the council know what has happened and they are waiting to hear her and her husband's evidence as to why they did what they did............................

is this going to go from bad to worse

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flappy_mcwarbucks

is this going to go from bad to worse

I'd be tempted to bluff this one out. Something along the lines of "we changed the locks to meet our insurance t&c's and we left a note on the door for you to contact us for the new keys. Did you not get it?"

Unless of course there is a text saying something along the lines of "I changed the locks, goodbye..." on the tenants phone.

Sunnylooloo

Ha could be a plan!

Yes i will check what they *ahem* did text them.......