Is this fair, Or is my OH being take for a ride?

hcb42

minimum wage didnt come into play until 1999 when it was £3.60 an hour

kingfisherblue

hcb42 wrote: »

minimum wage didnt come into play until 1999 when it was £3.60 an hour

There was a minimum wage pre-1993, but I think it was based on the job role rather than a national minimum wage. For retail, when I started work full time in 1987, the minimum wage was £1.17 an hour. Every April until the minimum wage was abolished, a new document (from HMRC?) was put on the notice board displaying the minimum hourly wage for that year.

The National Minimum Wage, in its current format, came into being in 1999.

oldMcDonald

kingfisherblue wrote: »

There was a minimum wage pre-1993, but I think it was based on the job role rather than a national minimum wage. For retail, when I started work full time in 1987, the minimum wage was £1.17 an hour. Every April until the minimum wage was abolished, a new document (from HMRC?) was put on the notice board displaying the minimum hourly wage for that year.

I started work in 1988 and can remember this.

feeling a bit old now

Hammyman

CFC wrote: »

The point is that if the OP wants to report the lack of minimum wage etc and is happy at the resulting huge family fallout then absolutely, go ahead.
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Conversely, why is there no family fallout about them treating him like dirt and keeping him in poverty when he is a member of their own family?

Every family firm I've worked for, the family get looked after above everyone else.

Hammyman

oldMcDonald wrote: »

I started work in 1988 and can remember this.

feeling a bit old now

No you can't because it didn't exist. I started work not long before you. There was no such thing as a minimum wage. There were unionised wages in printing companies, steel works etc but no minimum wage.

NikkeiJones

Google is a fantastic tool no need to argue just google:


History of the UK's minimum wage
by Jon Stone / 01 Oct 2010 12:03

1909 — Wages had always been regulated by municipalities, but in 1909 the Liberal government's Trade Boards Act created the first national system of wage regulation. The act created four Trade Boards that set minimum wages which varied between industries.

1945 — After the war, the Trade Boards, now known as 'Wages Councils' extend their influence. Formerly only applicable to industries where collective bargaining was weak, they were now broader in scope.

1986 — The Wage Council system had grown during the mid 20th century — by the late 1980s there were 26 councils, covering some two million employees, mainly in low paid jobs like retailing. In 1986 the Conservative government reduces the power of the councils and prevents new ones from being set up, through the Wages Act.

1993 — Wage Councils are abolished, in part due to opposition from trade unions, who preferred to practice collective bargaining

1998 — The Labour government introduces the National Minimum Wage Act. Trade unions, who in 1979 had represented 55% of the workforce, had been capable of negotiating wages through collective bargaining. But by 1999 less than one in four workers were unionised, and a national solution was proposed. The policy is opposed by Conservatives, who vote against its introduction.

1999 — The national minimum wage comes into force. The newly created Low Pay Commission judges the optimal rate to be £3.60 an hour for workers aged 22 and over.

2009 — Conservative backbencher Christopher Chope puts forward a private members' bill that proposes to allow employees to "opt out" of the minimum wage. It is signed by ten other Conservative MPs but does not move past the first reading.

2010 — On 1 October 2010 the wage rises to £5.93, and the age at which one can qualify for the top rate becomes 21 for the first time. A minimum wage for apprentices is also introduced, at £2.50 an hour.

sharnad

he should report his employer for not paying him the NMW if he doesnt do anything nothing will ever change

colino

Sadly this will all end in tears. The family member your husband works for really isn't running a business at all if they treat any member of staff so badly, and appears to need cheap labour to reduce overheads and continue to grovel for work all over the place, taking business away from other, legitimate, competitors.
After 8 years of this treatment, other than too late revenge, what's the point of all the negative energy of reporting them to anyone? Look for another job on the quiet, move on and watch that business fold behind you.

dark_lady

colino wrote: »

Sadly this will all end in tears. The family member your husband works for really isn't running a business at all if they treat any member of staff so badly, and appears to need cheap labour to reduce overheads and continue to grovel for work all over the place, taking business away from other, legitimate, competitors.
After 8 years of this treatment, other than too late revenge, what's the point of all the negative energy of reporting them to anyone? Look for another job on the quiet, move on and watch that business fold behind you.

And how long will it take to find another job in this economic climate.
And in the meantime the OPs husband should continue to be the patsy that this "employer" takes advantage of.
And for once i actually agree with Hammyman, what do other family members think of this.

dark_lady

And if this employer/relation isnt even paying minimum wage then he probably wont even provide a decent reference so what happens then?