MSE News: Amex overhauls popular Platinum cashback credit card

Former_MSE_Guy

This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

"Amex has revamped its Platinum cashback card, meaning it may no longer be the top payer for the majority of users ..."

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Amex overhauls popular Platinum cashback credit card

catflea

Interesting that no-one has commented so far...

I've done a few sums and it seems that to benefit over a flat 1% card (ignoring the potential fluctuation of the 1 month at 2.5%) its nessecary to spend £7000 in the year - doesn't seem too bad to me. Given Amex's target market I think this could wind up being a very good product for them....

Bossworld

If you keep the pre-change card, do you still have to pay the £25 annual fee next year?

Have had mine 2 months and already hit the £100 'jackpot' as it were so everything else is getting a couple of pence at 0.5%.

But in terms of annual spending next year, I'm not sure I'd clear the £25 charge

catflea

My understanding is that you have the option to switch if you want....

earthlover

The new v old comparison table shows n/a for the annual fee for the new card, but in the quote below the financial advisor talks about a £25 annual fee.

Am I being more stupid than usual today? Doesn't n/a normally mean not applicable, therefore there is no fee on the new card?

earthlover

To answer my own question, yes I am being more stupid::rotfl:

Should read things twice in future before I post. Sorry!

Toreador

Does the £25 fee apply to existing card holders?
I've not been informed of one.

I rarely use the card as hardly anywhere accepts it so if there's a fee I'll just cancel.

catflea

See my previous post

beano-ni

For anyone (like me) on the old scheme with the 0.5%, 1.0% and 1.5% tiers, I've created a spreadsheet* to help work out whether it's worth switching to the new card or if you're better on the old one.

My theory is:

• if you spend < £3.5k you're better on the old card because of the lack of fee
• if you spend > £3.5k but < £12k you're better on the new card.
• if you spend > £12k (and get the 1.5% top rate!) you're better on the old card

The reason the old card wins out for high spend is because the extra 0.25% for spend above 7.5k eventually (at £12k) evens out and then wins out over the flat 1.25%.

Any thoughts? I am not an accountant so may have missed something...

Also worth noting the maximum benefit from the new card is £11.25 (if you spend exactly £7.5k/yr). If you manage to spend £18k, the old card is worth £15 more.

* I was going to post a link to the spreadsheet but as a "new user" I'm not allowed... even though I've been registered and reading these forums for years.... try docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_GB&hl=en_GB&key=0AvL1fstEhlK2dHF0WHJVSXlyVFBJekJEV0Uyd0RBLWc&single=true&gid=0&output=html

catflea

Depends which version of the card you have.

The most recent incarnation was

Spend between £0 - £3500 was 0.5%
Spend between £3501 - £7000 was 1%
Spend over £7001 was 1.25%

and the prior one which you mention is slightly different to the levels you have given.

Spend between £0 - £3500 was 0.5%
Spend between £3501 - £10000 was 1%
Spend over £10001 was 1.5%

ALL the old platinum cards have a forfeiture clause if less than £3000 is spent in the year.

I don't have my cashback calculator tool to hand

So on the more recent card.....

Bottom Tier - upto £17.50
Middle Tier - upto £35.00
Top Tier - upto whatever

So, assuming you hit £7000 dead on the most recent iteration you earn £42.50

on the new card £7000 earns £82.50 - so knock the £25 off you get £57.50

£6000 earns £75 so knock the £25 off and you get £50 so for many people the new card is a better one in terms of cashback

There is no spend based forfeiture on the new card so £2000 spend will see you break even

Dont forget though (and I've not included this in the above) on your anniversary month you get 2.5%

I do hope that makes sense.......

jmclusky

I've got the existing Amex Platinum (capped at 1.25%) and my spending level means it makes sense for me to move to the new card. Except it's not that easy!

It's not possible to simply change your existing account's terms - you have to take out a whole new card. So I've applied and am now waiting.

Secondly, if you cancel your existing card, you forfeit any cashback outstanding - so make sure you keep your existing card account open (and have spent enough) until your card anniversary (Amex can tell you when that is) and only cancel once you've got your money.

The MSE article made it seem like it would be a bit easier than this I have to say...