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BTL Mortgages now 12.4% of all mortgages and safer bet

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  • geneer
    geneer Posts: 4,220 Forumite
    The CML has also announced that the value of new buy-to-let loans increased by 21% in the second quarter of 2011, driven mainly by remortgaging. It said there were 32,000 buy-to-let loans worth £3.5bn taken out from April to June, the highest number and value since the last quarter of 2008.

    Looks like the shift towards investors continues to be no greater than it was in the winter of 2008.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • robmatic
    robmatic Posts: 1,217 Forumite
    geneer wrote: »
    All mortgages is a lot less than it used to be.

    "proportion".

    Its an interesting word isn't it.

    Oh dear, I think you might need to read some key sentences in that article again. Or do you mean that the total number of mortgages in existence has dramatically decreased over the past few years?
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    robmatic wrote: »
    Oh dear, I think you might need to read some key sentences in that article again. Or do you mean that the total number of mortgages in existence has dramatically decreased over the past few years?

    Do you think the penny has dropped yet? :rotfl:
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    geneer wrote: »
    All mortgages is a lot less than it used to be.

    "proportion".

    Its an interesting word isn't it.

    Not as good as "numpty"
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    julieq wrote: »
    The shift towards concentration of property ownership towards investors continues.

    Reading the CML press release. Not a view they share.
    "If you consider the buy-to-let recovery alongside the increase in first-time buyer numbers we published yesterday, it appears that first-time buyers are not being displaced by buy-to-let landlords but are holding their own in a restricted market.

    Seems as if the tide is turning.
  • Pimperne1
    Pimperne1 Posts: 2,177 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    No. Banks improving margins by refusing consent to let to borrowers. Thereby forcing them onto commercial lending rates.

    Is there a link to banks refusing consent to let to borrowers? Just that Woolwich/Barclays were very understanding when I decided to move elsewhere and wanted to let my PPR. They didn't even increase their fantastic base rate tracker. Only allowed for two years but that will be enough for me.
  • Good! Since I moved into BTl myself it has out performed my penson 10 times.

    So under performed your Pension by 10 times
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Pimperne1 wrote: »
    Is there a link to banks refusing consent to let to borrowers?

    Lenders aren't going to advertise their policies by issuing a press release. Seems a logical step in the face of a declining amount of money to lend. Banking will fundamentally change in the next decade.
  • The inevitable consequence of mortgage rationing.

    codswallop.

    owner-occupation has been falling since 2003, i.e. the period in all of history at which there was least mortgage "rationing".
    FACT.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    edited 12 August 2011 at 9:21AM
    owner-occupation has been falling since 2003, i.e. the period in all of history at which there was least mortgage "rationing".

    Do you have some data to back up that assertion.... I thought it was 2005 that O/O percentages peaked?

    And are you referring to absolute numbers of homeowners, or owner occupation as a percentage of total households?

    Because obviously with growing population, increasing household formation, and house building failing to keep up even in the boom, let alone now, it is entirely possible in theory for the number of houses in owner occupation to grow whilst the percentage in owner occupation decreases. Up until the crash anyway....

    Although I'll agree it's probably falling on both measures now, for obvious reasons.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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