Universal credit = more riots.

TedButler

llubdlog wrote: »

There is talk about those caught involved in the unrest will have their housing ben reduced forcing them to find accommodation outside of London.

This should reduce the amount that will have to move when the 500 per week cap finally arrives

The thing is if there is so much social unrest now, imagine how bad things will get when benefits are cut that much next year?

They may delay the cuts again but that is just making the nations debt problems even worse.

Take the pain now, cut benefits as promised and then those on low incomes will have to move out of London because they can no longer afford to rent.

It may even make the rioting easier to control, less of these thugs in London.

devotee

TedButler wrote: »

In London some families get 4K a week rent alone. Not many get this amount I know but there are many getting 1 or 2 grand per week rent alone then other benefits on top.

When the 500 total ben cap comes in many will be forced to move away from London.

This really angers me!

Wow, I live in London and for 4k a week you can get a hell of a lot of house!
So if they choose to pop out kids every year (that they can't afford to have anyway), they want to live in Westminster/Chelsea etc. (that most people can't afford), then we, the taxpayer, have to indulge them???? Are you seriously defending them???

I can't afford to rent or buy in Chelsea so I do what most people who work do, move further out to areas I can afford! It's not a rocket science and I really have no sympathy for those people using the system like that.
Btw, £500 per week in London can get you 3-4 bed flat/house easily in many parts of London, so 4k a week is extortionate!

devotee

And benefits should not be a career choice, they should not be designed to give you a comfortable life otherwise people would not be motivated to find work....Oh sorry that is already happening!

TedButler

devotee wrote: »

This really angers me!

Wow, I live in London and for 4k a week you can get a hell of a lot of house!
So if they choose to pop out kids every year (that they can't afford to have anyway), they want to live in Westminster/Chelsea etc. (that most people can't afford), then we, the taxpayer, have to indulge them???? Are you seriously defending them???

I can't afford to rent or buy in Chelsea so I do what most people who work do, move further out to areas I can afford! It's not a rocket science and I really have no sympathy for those people using the system like that.
Btw, £500 per week in London can get you 3-4 bed flat/house easily in many parts of London, so 4k a week is extortionate!

I am not defending them at all. I am all for the cuts.

you are right £500 per week in London can get you 3-4 bed flat/house easily in many parts of London, so 4k a week is extortionate!

But the £500 per week in London is total benefit cap. If they spend more than say £200 on rent then they would not have enough to pay council tax water electric and gas, let alone food, and lets not forget booze and cigs that they 'need'.

I started this thread to say that when the universal credit has to come in, the social unrest in London will make what we see now a tea party.

StevieJ

ILW wrote: »

What about the people who work 5 or 6 days a week on low wages and are forced to live with the workshy on Broadwater Farm.

Even worse :eek:

devotee

TedButler wrote: »

I am not defending them at all. I am all for the cuts.

you are right £500 per week in London can get you 3-4 bed flat/house easily in many parts of London, so 4k a week is extortionate!

But the £500 per week in London is total benefit cap. If they spend more than say £200 on rent then they would not have enough to pay council tax water electric and gas, let alone food, and lets not forget booze and cigs that they 'need'.

I started this thread to say that when the universal credit has to come in, the social unrest in London will make what we see now a tea party.

AFAIK councils don't pay for food/electricity/gas/water. They pay for roof over your head and a council tax. Plus you get JSA or whatever else for kids etc. So up to them to budget (like the rest of us). Plenty of families in UK who get 40-50k a year in benefits and that's sick.

devotee

Yes it would be a good idea, sadly I don't think it will happen. The Mayor has already said there will be some leniency towards London.... I'm sick of this human rights carp, no one mentions human responsibility.

The_White_Horse

they should all be shot and their organs harvested for the needy in gt ormand street etc.

these people are filth and not needed.

was there any looting in Japan after the earthquake / tsunami? No. because they are decent people raised decently. our molly coddled lot of scum are the lefty chickens coming home to roost. all teachers power removed by lefties, all police power removed by lefties, all parent power removed by lefties.

this is 100% the fault of lefties.

who decided to give 16 yr old scum with babies their own home???? yes, the lefty. how does that 16 yr old moron raise her child? not very well. what happens to that child? it becomes scum and moronic like its [EMAIL="sl@g"]sl@g[/EMAIL] mother. whose fault is this repeating cycle - the lefty.

who watered down our education system so even university graduates can't read or write properly??? the lefty.

lefty - biggest cancer in the west.

and still the lefty makes excuses for this rampaging filth.

Reesy1981

As an ex pub landlord, it annoyed me how many people would be on benefits yet would be in the pub everyday. Fair enough the till was ringing, but the principle. I was working hard for what i had and couldnt afford to get drunk 7 days a week, yet these could, and have heating and electricity and food in the fridge, and a big tv, and a gaming console, and a pc/laptop and all the rest of the trimmings of a good life.
Those that were in the unrest were just out for greed, to get what they could. No regard for anything, no regard as to the cost to insurers which will now be passed on to other hard working people. Just like that ethnic minority that like setting up accidents to induce payments for materialised injuries. They are scum and should be treated as such. They should be sent to the army, made to work and learn discipline and made to fight for queen and country, just as the good folk that are in the middle east are doing for us.
They keep getting called riots, but were nothing of the sort. Back in 2001 when Oldham suffered from the race riots, there was no looting. Just two groups of people facing off against each other with the police in the middle. These so called riots were just about people being out for what they could get. My only hope is, that with the type of people they were, the police will be able to check cctv images against their records and go and grab the people from their homes.

SingleSue

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

All the more reason to have had kids. An 18 year old single mother will get:


Housing Benefit: £13,071 (say)

Woah! Maybe in the most expensive areas.....mine is £5000 a year (give or take a few pounds)