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Is now the time to buy stocks/shares??

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  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
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    DiggerUK wrote: »
    gtub2000, I guess the reference here, is to companies such as Woolworth's, M.F.I., and the banks.
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    If you say so. I don't.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • DiggerUK
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    lvader wrote: »
    Those are individual companies, by dips I mean times like these when pretty much all shares are down.

    gtub2000, this is a raspberry to common sense, the question that is not answered by Ivader, is why nearly all markets are down.
    No sense putting money on the cutest horse at the glue factory.
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  • gadgetmind
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    lvader wrote: »
    Those are individual companies, by dips I mean times like these when pretty much all shares are down.

    Quite so. These mass panics see the good being flogged off along with the bad. If you carefully pick companies with good dividends, good divi cover, a history of rising dividends, strong business models, and broad moats, you can slowly build a portfolio that delivers good returns and few unpleasant surprises.

    Of course, you will encounter the odd bad apple, and those who claim the whole barrel is tainted forever, but with wisdom comes the ability to spit the pips a long long way.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • gadgetmind
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    DiggerUK wrote: »
    And all this from somebody who was recently advising those in private pensions, to go for the safe option, when approaching retirement, by investing in gilts, bonds and treasuries!!! all of which are showing massive inflation shortfall.
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    So, is fixed interest good, or are equities good? Very little offers guaranteed inflation tracking, and I'm maxing out this where I can, but after that, index linked and equities seem the least bad in my book.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • DiggerUK
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    gadgetmind wrote: »
    ......Very little offers guaranteed inflation tracking, and I'm maxing out this where I can, but after that, index linked and equities seem the least bad in my book.

    What gtub2000, needs to do, is stick to known knowns when it comes to beating inflation.
    NSI Index Linked is the obvious, and I believe gold is the only other inflation beater. But what do I know, I'm bonkers.

    Shares, equities, gilts, and corporate bonds, are a proven danger area for wealth creation and preservation these days.
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  • IronWolf
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    LOL, gold......inflation beating? I must have missed that period from 1980 to 2000 when there was no inflation.....at all.

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    We should thank people like Digger, it gives us real investors the chance to snap up good quality companies on the cheap when they predict the apocalypse every few years.
    Faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
  • DiggerUK
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    IronWolf wrote: »
    LOL, gold......inflation beating? I must have missed that period from 1980 to 2000 when there was no inflation.....at all.........

    No inflation???? gtub2000, I suggest you go back to the figures from that time and do your own fact finding?

    The chart is sourced from Nationwide, and show that house prices mirror the trajectory of gold in Iron Wolfs chart strangely.

    Also, some odd information about inflation here.
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  • Looks well overpriced, now if you had told me to buy gold back in 2000-01 then that would have been worth getting in at.

    I've always been told that what goes up, must come down. Why would I want to get in at the top? Is it not possible that those who are saying buy gold are running scared right now and doing their best to safeguard their own investment from falling through the floor by encouraging others to buy?
  • lvader
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    DiggerUK wrote: »
    No inflation???? gtub2000, I suggest you go back to the figures from that time and do your own fact finding?

    The chart is sourced from Nationwide, and show that house prices mirror the trajectory of gold in Iron Wolfs chart strangely.

    Also, some odd information about inflation here.
    ..._

    But that can't be possible because it would mean that gold as an inflation hedge was really crap for 20 years. ;)
  • DiggerUK
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    lvader wrote: »
    But that can't be possible because it would mean that gold as an inflation hedge was really crap for 20 years. ;)

    gtub2000, Ivader is right in one sense, but when you consider that the printy printy worked for along time by manufacturing a false boom, it is not the full story.
    The boom meant there were bigger steak to fry than gold.
    The bust means gold and NSI Index Linked let you go large with safe havens.
    Chickens are coming home to roost, and gold is c0ck of the yard, and NSI IL are it's ickle chicks, (similar colour too).
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