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General discussion for (Tottenham) riots
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Part-time isn't the same as casual. None of those employers wants people who don't turn up when they're having a bad day. Or people who do turn up when they're having a bad day.loads of part time jobs:- most of retail, cafes and restaurants, care workers, nhs, lots of teaching jobs all allow part time workers
That helps?one of the major problems for lower paid jobs is the the benefits system doesn't make it worthwhile to work; we need to scrape the minimum wage"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
Part-time isn't the same as casual. None of those employers wants people who don't turn up when they're having a bad day. Or people who do turn up when they're having a bad day.
casual work... like the dockers in the 50/60 who turned up outside the gates and hoped to be choosen for one days work at a time
That helps?
yes indeed
the options are
1. parents who never work and who bring up children who have no knowledge of work and are likely to drift into petty crime, drugs etc
which all produces the underclass that is growing in our society
or
2. people who maybe work in low paid work, who can use that to improve themselves and improve their lot in life and show their children the merits of applying themselves.
better for the individuals and better for society0 -
yes indeed
the options are
1. parents who never work and who bring up children who have no knowledge of work and are likely to drift into petty crime, drugs etc
which all produces the underclass that is growing in our society
or
2. people who maybe work in low paid work, who can use that to improve themselves and improve their lot in life and show their children the merits of applying themselves.
better for the individuals and better for society
That's nothing to do with the minimum wage it's to do with the additional benefits you get when you are unemployed, are a single parent and have children.
The minimum wage actually makes those who have a work ethic more likely to work. It doesn't stop those without a work ethic from sitting on their behind.
The problem is it's cheaper for the government to pay single mothers to sit on their behinds then to pay for their childcare and get them out working.
However schemes where childcare is paid for teenage girls who are single mothers and are in education or training show that doing this works.
Any while you may moan about paying out for their childcare the longer term effects are cheaper for taxpayers as they are more likely to start and continue working.
Edited to add: Those arrested included university students and adults with decent jobs. So blaming it entirely on benefit claimants or those from single parent families is unfair.I'm not cynical I'm realistic
(If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)0 -
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ffacoffipawb wrote: »THere's CCTV of the little chav setting the shop alight it was on Granada Reports!
Its on youtube as well, there is even another women shopper (pardon the pun) stood behind him with a camera, what a !!!!!!!!
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
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ffacoffipawb wrote: »Remarkably, the little tuurd has pleaded not guilty!
He must have Alex Ferguson's brief if he thinks he can get off with that 'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
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vivatifosi wrote: »
Surely he can pack in the shop, and get a job a Pentonville as Prison Barber? There are probably a few lads who could be introduced to him....
Keep the razor sharpened, Aaron....0 -
vivatifosi wrote: »Just watching Sky News interviewing an amazing woman (Louise Smith) from Wolverhampton who stood on her doorstep and faced down the crowd rioting there. She refused to leave her store and screamed abuse at them and told them they weren't having her shop. Apparently when she was giving them a piece of her mind - she's quite badass so I can imagine it was a bit like the other woman in Hackney - the rioters told her not to swear!
The looters maybe don't realise that an independent shop owner can be fiercer than a chain store security guard when faced with having their business destroyed.
We supply a store in N London and she has no steel shutters and can't afford to have the place boarded up each night. She hasn't got the skills/tools etc to board up herself at close and unboard in the mornings so she is emptying her boutique every night, taking the stock home and bringing in back the next day.
If we still had a store locally OH would be probably be sleeping in it overnight along with the owners of the neighbouring shops.
It seems to have quietened down but as son pointed out, they must all be exhausted after 5 or 6 nights out....it's almost like having to go out to work.
I can't really post about it but I saw how big companies dealt with security issues over the past 10 months and, as they have deep pockets, most potentially bad situations didn't catch hold nor get reported in the media.
The independents didn't stand a chance...and the barbers shop.....what a bunch of cowards that looted him.0
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