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General discussion for (Tottenham) riots
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More money doesn't equal better quality. I volunteer in a school in East London (one of the riot areas) and in Year 6, half the class can barely spell and write. What hope is there?
I can see both sides of the arguments but displacing blame will not solve the problem. Lots and lots of things are wrong.
There is hope! My OH works in a school in a very underprivileged area of London and those kids needed discipline. The teachers there are too scared to discipline them and they just behave how they wish! My OH had set up a sports club, sorted them out, those kids are doing much better in classes, no longer carrying knives to school, but only as he was very strict with them.0 -
How do you teach kids who don't want to learn?More money doesn't equal better quality. I volunteer in a school in East London (one of the riot areas) and in Year 6, half the class can barely spell and write. What hope is there?
I can see both sides of the arguments but displacing blame will not solve the problem. Lots and lots of things are wrong.0 -
Yeah no oil in Hackney....
Not much oil in Syria, either - predicted to be a net importer of energy by next year....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
Actually loads of them don't want to work, they want to be famous and have loads of money, but not work.
Is it government's problem, a bit, their parents' - hell yeah!
Well, the media creates the aspirations. Win a reality TV show and you'll win £10,000. Why bother to work when you can go on TV? Compare how much footballers are paid and how much they could expect at a normal minimum wage job?
Ken's really milking it on bbc news now, BLAME THE BANKERS.0 -
I was brought up in inner London and currently have family being educated in the same area as where some of the looters are.
I know from previous serious events some of the little s***s go to the same schools myself and the rest of my family were and are being educated at.
If they can't read and write then they are obviously not attending or bothered to attend school, as even the younger members of my families friends' who aren't as bright can read and write.
Its also about valuing education. My dad won a place at a London grammar and was taught to love education. He had to leave to start work in his mid teens....and went a long way.
Teachers have a hard, hard job. When the teachers were striking I felt dismay at some who represented them.
DH also volunteers at inner city schools through his employers and sees current things, and is not overwhelmed with confidence, and saddened by what we give these kids...and what little we expect back.0 -
fc123 - are you in woolwich? on bbc news website that there is looting in woolwich high st...0
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Well, the media creates the aspirations. Win a reality TV show and you'll win £10,000. Why bother to work when you can go on TV? Compare how much footballers are paid and how much they could expect at a normal minimum wage job?
Ken's really milking it on bbc news now, BLAME THE BANKERS.
This, but also....the work they can get needs to be in some way substancially better than the more likely alternative. That also doesn't necessarily have to be financial....pride can be a good thing. Feeling valued, feeling valuable.
I'm watching Bbc too.0 -
:T:TThere is hope! My OH works in a school in a very underprivileged area of London and those kids needed discipline. The teachers there are too scared to discipline them and they just behave how they wish! My OH had set up a sports club, sorted them out, those kids are doing much better in classes, no longer carrying knives to school, but only as he was very strict with them.setmefree2 wrote: »How do you teach kids who don't want to learn?
I don't know.
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I haven't felt this sad for London since 7/7...
and I
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