Speeding fine - what happens next?

violetta

Friend's partner caught speeding in his firm's lorry. He sent the £60 fine mistakenly with the first lot of paperwork where the firm let the police know it was him, rather than waiting for the paperwork addressed to him and asking for his licence and the fine. It confused the system so much, they returned his cheque saying he had sent it too early, and he never heard from them again with the second lot of paperwork demanding the fine and his licence.

Same bloke (does not sound fit to be driving a lorry to me) went to court when he was on 9 points already, defending himself against going through a red light (thought he might as well as if he got 3 more points he would lose his licence.) His defence was that he was driving a lorry containing chemicals that if mixed would produce mustard gas and therefore a major incident involving evacuating the area if he skidded and crashed, and he felt he was going too fast to stop at the red light due to a wet road. One of the magistrates understood some chemistry and that mixing the chemicals would be dangerous, so although he was found guilty and fined £80, he got no points because the magistrate felt he made a safer decision than trying to stop for the red light.

I must say, when I heard the story I felt he should not have been approaching traffic lights at such a speed that he could not stop, and am amazed the magistrates did not think that too.

Wig

chuckles1066 wrote:

They have to inform you within 14 days.

But it gets messy over Christmas with all the non-working days..............

They have 14 days to tell the registered keeper. Not the driver. This condition may have been complied with.

Wig

ajtrader100 wrote:

No they dont.......... I tried that when contesting one of mine. They have ways round it!

Care to elaborate? Who was the vehicle registered to?, how long was it from Date of offence to the NIP arriving?

What was your defence
What was their excuse
Did you have a solicitor? What did he advise you?
What was the courts finding?

Wig

UK007BullDog wrote:

Anyway I am not going to contest it, as its pointless. What is the next procedure? As the car is registered in Hubbies name he has to let them know it was me driving. Supposedly they have technical & photographic evidence (why dont they send that with the letter?).

It's not pointless, as I understand it a great many people are succesful with using the PACE defence - it doesn't get to court, the forum at pepipoo should be able to tell you if this is true or not.

Also because it was your hubbies car you are infact in a better position to try to go for a timeout, again the pepipoo will explain how and what is happening lately in the different constabulary areas - in terms of efficiency.

Hint: you have 28 days to respond to that NIP.

UK007BullDog

Thanks again, but too much hassle. I was speeding and got caught, so will pay up.

But from now on I will drive the exact speed and any driver flashing me or driving up my bumper to get me to go faster will see my finger. :rotfl:

It is so hard to keep to the exact speed limit in a sporty car. :cool:

Wig

Even then you won't be safe from scameras

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/notso.html

I always try to be below the limit

25 for a 30 zone scamera
35 for a 40 zone scamera
44 for a 50
53 for a 60
60 for a 70

If in doubt 25mph

sheryldoc

Why should people avoid speeding fines/tickets? making a mockery of a law thats there to protect others.

Even 6 MPH can b the diff between life and death if you his some poor kid while acting like a !!!!.. in order to get somewhere a lil quicker!

3 points for 6mph is a lil harsh and 1st time yeah maybe 1 point a lil better but persistant offenders or those who speed excessive should jst be taken off the road end of!

Wig

sheryldoc wrote:

Why should people avoid speeding fines/tickets? making a mockery of a law thats there to protect others.!

Why should the State be allowed to prosecute people not in accordance with the law?

sheryldoc

I think its a cheek that people will knowingly put peoples lifes at risk and then have the cheek to try and get out of it, they should take some responsibility.

wouldnt b that if it was your daughter some driver smashed into would it?..

Wig

You're being overly emotional, and allowing that to cloud your judgement.

Laws have to be followed by everyone. If someone is suspected of breaking a law then there are laws that have to be followed in the investigation and prosecution of the suspect. No one is above the law. No one is guilty (or should be) without being proven guilty. When you allow the Police/Government to pass judgement with no regard to proper procedure you are on a slippery slope to a police state - miscarriage of justice. The laws are there to protect everyone.

I can equally come back at you with....."you're only happy to let the police flout the laws until they accuse you or a member of your family of a crime you did not commit. And then they try to stitch you up, falsify records and give false witness. Then will you see what your laisser faire attitude to police procedure created and once created it is nearly impossible to destroy."