Sacked due to sickness record

elisebutt65

As her daughter is only 2, she is eligible to claim Income Support; AFAIK.

Have to say as a lone parent of 2, since youngest was 2; I've managed to get a degree, Post Grad quals AND hold down a job, what is up with her???

I've had maybe 2 days off this last year with the kids, 1 because DS2 was pushed over in the snow, driving his tooth into his lip and snapping it off. The other one was for d & v so he couldn't go to school. I've never been late in EVER!!! Late home occasional, but they get home on their own now.

She needs to wake up & live in the real world!

yvonne13_2

I think they must judge all cases on individual circumstances. My ex-co worker was sacked due to sickness and lateness and I don't think this will be looked on as neither here neither there as a potential employer will more than likely frown at someone with such track record.

I think if she was sacked if she wasn't deemed as being able to full fill her job role it could be classed as possibly down to lack of training maybe? But I just don't know, She told me they said she couldn't sign on because she was sacked but I just want to check as I don't want to be made a fool of, and I don't buy the line that they will not give her any help with her daughter. I have been told many times that people take my kindness for some form of weakness.

Torry_Quine

yvonne13 wrote: »

I think they must judge all cases on individual circumstances. My ex-co worker was sacked due to sickness and lateness and I don't think this will be looked on as neither here neither there as a potential employer will more than likely frown at someone with such track record.

I think if she was sacked if she wasn't deemed as being able to full fill her job role it could be classed as possibly down to lack of training maybe? But I just don't know, She told me they said she couldn't sign on because she was sacked but I just want to check as I don't want to be made a fool of, and I don't buy the line that they will not give her any help with her daughter. I have been told many times that people take my kindness for some form of weakness.

Yvonne you sound like a really caring person but in this case there really is nothing you can do. She will not be left financially bereft. As I said she can sign on and even if she gets no JSA will be entitled to funds as she has a young child.

Your kindness is not a weakness, personally I'd rather be seen as weak and naive than cynical. :A

dandelionclock30

I'd just forget her if I were you.Its her problem.As long as your not been sacked thats the main thing.

yvonne13_2

everyone is right in what they are telling me and I have really sat down and reflected on what happened today and to be honest I have a feeling if the shoe was on the other foot she would blind her eyes to what was happening.

I just hope she sorts herself out and I wish her well.

ceridwen

Okays...well some peeps mightnt like me saying so - but the reason the woman with a child was treated differently probably boils down to it being because the reasons she was off in the first few weeks were because (or said to be because) of the child (ie rather than herself).

With that - it is likely being taken that she will have both HER sick leave and sick leave that is because (said to be because) of the child. Whereas the other woman is only taking sick leave because of HERSELF iyswim.

Therefore the other woman isnt as likely to take sick leave as woman 1 - ie because she will only be taking on behalf of 1 person, rather than 2.

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Must admit I am surprised that this woman was made permanent in the first place - with her having taken the amount of sick leave that she took in the first few weeks.

ceridwen

yvonne13 wrote: »

Bluenoseam,

I totally agree with what you said about the 12 occasions of sickness over 5 months but now because of this HR are now re-writing the lateness policy and will announce the changes next week.

I was shocked when they put in her letter that she had only been to work on time twice in the whole 5 months.
I have a feeling if that was anyone else they would have been pulled straight away.

I only have concerns for her daughter as I am unsure if she can claim until she finds work as I know her rent is due next Friday and she has a private landlord. She just just sent me a text saying she cannot claim and if I will borrow her the rent money, but for some reason I don't believe her and I just told her to go back to her mums.

The reason you dont want to lend her money is your intuition is telling you that she is an unreliable sort of person and that you would never see your money again. You are very kindhearted to even think of lending such an unreliable person money - but I think you know in your heart of hearts that she isnt asking you for a loan at all and she knows it. She wants you to GIVE her the money - but isnt being honest enough to admit it.

baybeebug

Got to say single parent here too, very rarely late if I am it's usually due to an accident on the main road going to work (been know to be sat for 3 hours because of one!) but employer knows the road is dangerous as she normally stuck in it as well!

My son is not allowed to be sick!! (I'm a hard mother!) when he try the good old 'my tummy hurts' my usual answer is it will be fine when you get to school!! I feel I'm teaching him a work ethic! mind more to the point is I can't afford to take time off and spending a day with him would annoy me intensely!! (don't get me wrong I love my son but god he's annoying like his father!!)

Mind my sickness level at work is nearly non, the only time I've had off in the last 4 years was to go to hospital for a procedure and I was in work the next day. But then that just me I am a STAR!!:D

VfM4meplse

yvonne13 wrote: »

Oh my goodness!!! Really!!! but what about her daughter??

When you enter the job market, you need to make reliable childcare arrangements including contingency plans to cover emergencies. This applies to all parents, not just mothers.

From an employer's perspective, once you show the slightest bit of flexibility, this sadly then becomes open to abuse. Employers are not unsympathetic, but need reliable staff.

Uncertain

VfM4meplse wrote: »

When you enter the job market, you need to make reliable childcare arrangements including contingency plans to cover emergencies. This applies to all parents, not just mothers.

From an employer's perspective, once you show the slightest bit of flexibility, this sadly then becomes open to abuse. Employers are not unsympathetic, but need reliable staff.

From a strictly legal perspective you do of course have a right to short periods of unpaid leave to deal with family emergencies. In theory, if you were sacked for exercising this right, you could claim unfair dismissal without needing the one year qualifying period.

However, in the real world, the problem is coming up with a clear understanding of what constitutes an emergency and how long is a short period!