Sacked due to sickness record

yvonne13_2

I know...........but she would always say that she is on her own and she has to drop her daughter of first and if anyone has a problem they can kiss her ****

I tried speaking to her but it just fell on deaf ears and now everyone has closed the door on her and I just don't want to do the same. I don't want her daughter to suffer for her mistakes

bodmil

The employer sounds rather nice for giving her the benefit of the doubt by offering her a permanent job despite her absence as a temp member of staff.
Can't offer advice but I do hope she learns a lesson. Perhaps seeing her daughter suffering from her actions will make it sink in?

SarEl

Yvonne - your compassion for the child is commendable, but this person is actually not "your friend" - she is a user. She has used two employers (and no doubt used her daughter to - nobody is sick that often!), and now she is texting you and wanting to borrow money. This person is nothing but a former colleague, an acquaintance you met at work. These are not mistakes - I know many single parents, and I cannot recall many who are perpetually late for work or require periods off work at the drop of a hat every couple of days. If you get sucked into her fantasy world your are going to get hurt. This isn't your problem - stay out of it for your own sake.

KiKi

Torry_Quine wrote: »

Yes you can claim JSA if dismissed. They will ask what happened and contact the employer for their take on the dismissal. It will then go to a decision maker who will decide on any sanction whic can be up to 26 weeks without benefit. While the decision is being made JSA will still be paid.

Ah, thanks for the correction.

I hope something works out for her daughter's sake, OP, but really, if she thinks she's the be all and end all (and everyone else can kiss her ****) then I dread to think what sort of life lessons she's teaching her child, and why she thinks she's above everyone else. She'll never hold down a job with that attitude.

Re your comment

Oh my goodness!!! Really!!! but what about her daughter??

I don't mean to sound harsh (and I'd never want a child to suffer because of the parent's behaviour), but that's what happens when you behave in the manner she has. Why should she get money from the taxpayer because she can't be bothered to turn up to work on time and is off work 12 times in 5 months?

She doesn't seem to be thinking about her daughter's well being and future if she was only on time to work TWICE in FIVE MONTHS!

KiKi

yvonne13_2

SarEl,

I have read your post over and over and you are 100% right. She is not my friend but an ex-co worker and for my own good perhaps I should back off.
I have never been late or sick and I have never been pulled in the office and I don't want to get sick with worry over an issue that is really not my business.
But my mind cannot rest I just keep thinking about her daughter, I don't want anyone's children to suffer I just need to know that she will be able to claim some sort of money so her daughter is ok

heretolearn_2

She and the child won't be left to starve even if JSA not forthcoming - there are other benefits. She can also get a crisis loan from DSS.

She sounds like huge trouble; a liar, and a user, so my advice is to steer well clear.

I got sucked in by someone very similar I met at work who lurched from one drama queen crisis to another but they were ALL of her own making. She had problems, to put it lightly, so did her husband. To me, she was a vague acquaintance, to her I was her best friend. She ended up using me as an alibi for something (unknown to me) that resulted in her husband harrassing and threatening me and my own child. I had to get the police in to extricate myself and the policeman I saw advised me to cut off all contact. Up to that point I suppose I felt a bit sorry for her. But that was it, finished. I told her never to contact me again, deleted her number etc.

Don't get sucked in by a user.

SarEl

yvonne13 wrote: »

SarEl,

I have read your post over and over and you are 100% right. She is not my friend but an ex-co worker and for my own good perhaps I should back off.
I have never been late or sick and I have never been pulled in the office and I don't want to get sick with worry over an issue that is really not my business.
But my mind cannot rest I just keep thinking about her daughter, I don't want anyone's children to suffer I just need to know that she will be able to claim some sort of money so her daughter is ok

The state would never leave her daughter without support - whether she sees any benefit from it is another matter. You cannot change that. Unfortunately some people seem destined to think that they can use everyone. You sound like a really nice person - concentrate in what you can make a difference in, and not on what you cannot. She's had three chances that you know of - her first employer, then your employer giving her a chance instead of firing her sorry backside whilst she was temping, and then again when she got that lousy and well-deserved bad reference! Anyone who screws up that many chances isn't going to learn...

yvonne13_2

I am listening and thanks for all the advice I will leave her to it. I suppose the only person that can help her is herself.

bodmil

It's her that should be worrying about her own daughter. You can't change other people's minds. Just be a good example in your own life, you've done your part by helping her with the job.

dandelionclock30

I got JSA after 2 weeks of signing on.The lady who signed me on and did the initial assessment said its different if you have been dismissed as oppposed to have walked out.