Uninstalling a telephone socket.

keystone

I too am now totally confused by what the OP is trying to say in this thread. So - end of contribution.

Cheers

laurel7172

macman wrote: »

You've lost me.
The primary socket is the first one from the external box-just follow the cabling along.
There are only two ways of wiring sockets-either in a daisy chain sequence, one following another in series, or in a star sequence, with more than one cable radiating out from the primary.

Is the primary the outside box, or the one near the outside box, but inside?

I'm so sorry if I'm not explaining it well-thank you to everybody who has tried to help.

To cut it down to basics, the socket I want to remove is a newer, additional one, and definitely not critical to the functioning of any other. Because it's a newer one, the cable runs around the outside of the house and can be followed to where it appears to enter the external box (marked Cable and Wireless) directly. But I think I'm gleaning from the comments that that makes no sense-it should be wired into some sort of internal master phone point?

laurel7172

andrew-b wrote: »

The master socket (unless really old) is known as an NTE5 socket and can be identified by having a removeable faceplate as the lower half and should have a BT logo on it. If you remove the front faceplate from this socket you will find that any extension wiring is connected to this removeable faceplate - be careful that the extension wiring doesnt all fall out! You are allowed to mess around with whatever is connected to the removeable faceplate but legally you are not allowed to touch anything before this on the incoming cable which is connected via the external box to the back of the NTE5 socket (not the removeable faceplate).

When you muck around with the extension wiring you should carefully remove the lower removeable faceplate of the NTE5. There is then no risk of any electric shock. If you remove an extension you need to remove the other end of the cable from the socket that is before it...whether it's an extension socket itself or the back of the faceplate of the master NTE5 socket.

The correct tool to use is Krone tool (got mine on ebay). Many people simply use a small screwdriver to push the wires in (although this can damage the connectors) or you can get cheap throwaway plastic tools that won't last much longer than one use.

The only wires you need to mess with on the extensions are labelled 2 and 5 (usually blue pair of wires) and 3 which is usually the orange wire (4 is sometimes connected just to terminate the loose end of the orange pair but needn't be). #3 is the ring wire and is better left disconnected as it can reduce ADSL broadband speeds - you only need to connect it if your extension phones don't ring after.

Thank you-I get it now! A socket with a faceplate into which all other sockets are connected. Still confused (and that's why I've been confusing others) because it "really* does look as if the wires for the additional sockets go directly into the outside box-should it make any difference that it's C&W? Maybe they run just under the lid and through the wall. Anyway, I'll open up the NTE5 in the morning, and see if I can make sense of what I see.

Thanks again

macman

Post a link to a picture please, it's really not clear what you need to do, unless you can confirm the sequence of the sockets and what sort they are.
It's also confused by the fact that you appear to have a second (redundant) line.

keystone

A box lebelled C&W implies that, at some stage, the house had (or may still have for that matter) a telephone service bundled with cable TV although that is by no means certain without seeing the actual installation even pics of individual boxes won't help much. You need to trace the cabling and that only can be done in situ not remotely via this forum or any other means. If you can identify that you have:

a) A BT drop wire terminating in a Master Socket from which your current telephone/broadband services are run as described by Andrew.

and:

b) the socket you want to remove is only connected to the separate C&W box (which may or may not still have a fibre cable feeding it) and that when you plug a telephone into that box it is dead.

then you may be confident that you can just take out the box you want to get rid of.

Cheers