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heather38

i agree, my mil thinks i'm cruel as kennedy doesn't get sweets. my mum bought her a chocolate dog from m&s for easter and it's still in its wrapper. i don't want her filling up on unhealthy food, she doesn't need sugar she's hyper enough!
she gets the occasional treat but usually a breadstick type product or baby biscuit. my mums another one, she gives her fruit shoots! for gods sake have you seen how much crap is in them?! and rusks grrrr but sometimes there is no telling people and i've told them not to tell me if they give her such stuff as my blood pressure can't take it!

Snaggles

That's a really nice post Becles.

I know someone who goes on and on about all the educational TV programmes her 4 year old daughter likes (she's appalled that my DS likes Spongebob and Power Rangers), and how she knows all the songs and actions from them. When I go round to her house (which I do, often), the TV is always on, and there are piles of expensive toys everywhere, but I have NEVER seen her play with her daughter.

purplepatch

dougggie wrote: »

hi all, great to be finally joining this thread! My little boy Edwyn arrived by emcs on 15/03 and life has been wonderful chaos since.

unfortunately as a result of the c section have had lots of b/f probs and jaundice so have to express as well as supplement with formula. Think the formula is causing a few stomach upsets so can someonr remind me which brand was mentioned earlier in the thread to avoid or recommend? So tricky with him being less than 2 wks but have been using hipp baby and don't think his stomach is coping, but ebm isn't enough

Congratulations dougggie!

It was aptimil that everyone was recommending and sma gold that they didn't like.

dougggie

purplepatch wrote: »

Congratulations dougggie!

It was aptimil that everyone was recommending and sma gold that they didn't like.

Thanks for that! Have just realised how little i actually know about bottle feeding a baby since all the post-birth info is geared to breast feeding... have no idea how much the baby should "posset" up after a feed, but suspect it isn't the projectile vomit we got last night which went on for 4 or 5 spurts Nobody has shown me how to burp the baby properly, or said how long it should take for them to need burping. Is this another how long is a piece of string answer?
Then also don't know if that's due to a reaction to the formula or just that the teat is too fast flowing or what have you. Shouldn't be i suppose since it's an anti-colic size 1? which came with the tommy tippee steriliser but have no idea. Have sent DS out to get some avent newborn ones today.
Feel so inadequate as had expressed 90mls for this morning's first feed and it wasn't enough, so had to go through the pain of feeding him extra from source via nipple shields, hoping he didn't notice the extra protein he was getting from the bleeding bits :rolleyes:

Great admiration for those of you with more than one kid on the go, feeling my age very much now!

daphne_descends

Congratulations dougggie! (not sure how I missed that...)

Are you able to feed him without the nipple shields at all? Don't worry about the blood - breast milk is made from blood anyway.

Are you receiving any breastfeeding support from a midwife or anything? or a breastfeeding counsellor?

There are numbers for all the helplines here and lots of information too to help you get the support you need http://howbreastfeedingworks.com/ You may be able to be put in touch with someone who's been where you are now and can talk from experience, or get a counsellor to come out and see you at home.

As for burping and posseting, don't worry about how much he is bringing up, I' am sure the liquid content of the earth has increased massively since Elliot arrived, and I often get frustrated after spending an age feeding him only for him to bring it all back up again but their little bodies know what they are doing. Try lots of different positions for winding but you'll probably be able to tell when it is needed by the wriggling he'll do.

Lovely name by the way

SusanC_2

Some babies sick more than others. My mum said she used to put me on a blanket on the floor and she had to wash the blanket every day because it was so bad. WHen ALice was small I used to stop feeding her if she'd fed for more than 50 minutes and sicked because if I let her she would sick and then carry on feeding and sick again like a Roman feast.

Lu_T

Oh Douggie! You are not inadequate! I'm sure you're a great mum. It used to take me nearly an hour to express enough for Imogen's last evening feed, which is why we introduced formula at this point. I felt like a cow hooked up to a milking machine and used to get hand-ache from all the pumping! :rotfl:

Re burping, try a few different positions to see what works. You could put baby upright against your chest with arms over your shoulder (watch his floppy head though), or (if you've strong arms) lay him along your forearm, head in your hand, one leg either side. Rubbing or patting between the shoulder blades/up and down the back are the 'normal' ways of getting wind up, but you will quickly find what works for you and Edwyn. I used to have to be very vigorous with Imogen to get her to burp. Sometimes she did, sometimes she didn't.

Don't worry about the vomit too much as long as he isn't bringing up every single feed. Imogen went through a stage of bringing up her bedtime feed - to the point where I used to (bottle) feed her with my top off and let her throw up on me (to save the carpet!). Then get us all changed and put her down to sleep.

Re bedtime - we started Imogen's bedtime routine at around 6 weeks. Bath, feed, then bed. We made a point of ALWAYS putting Imogen down awake (but sleepy) and leaving her to fall asleep on her own. We never rocked her to sleep. OH came up with a system of shusshhing and patting her back to get her to settle before putting her in moses basket and continuing to shush as you back out of the room. Often if she woke just after going to bed - up to an hour or so - a quick shush (sometimes from the bottom of the stairs!) would be all it took to get her to go off again.

Before starting her bedtime routine we just spent all night staring at her in her moses basket on the living room floor. Adorable, but not the couple time we needed!

Wish I'd have done the later bedtime then move it forward that has previously been suggested though as we put Imogen to bed at 6.30 and she didn't sleep through for quite some time. Yet other mums I know put baby to bed at 9-10pm at first, then gradually moved it forwards, had baby sleeping through much earlier. Depends on the baby though, there's no magic solution on sleeping through - as on every other baby problem!

izoomzoom

Douggie, sorry I missed you too - congrats. You aren't inadequate - it is a mine field out there and you are trying different things / getting help which shows you are a great mum !!

Re the shields - try and use them as little as possible. My supply seemed to be affected when Sam was 3 weeks old because of cracked nipples (and my reluctance to feed) or because I used shields at this time. Just bear it in mind.

Also possetting - Sam vomits for Africa (cos I come from there and it is big) - soaks 5 bibs and 3-4 terry squares every day !!

Mazcabs

Dougggie

I also had Emergency C Section and so was unable to BF for the first day or so by which time LO had got used to bottles and teats. One of the MW's in hospital managed to get him to BF but by me putting a bottle teat on my breast and he would then take it. When the MW visited at home she suggested nipple sheilds but these didnt work so I carried on with the bottle teats for the first 6 weeks until I had to give up BF... made it handy for going out though as I could give him a bottle then. I agree with you about post birth info ...I got quite depressed at first but as someone on the forum said it was better to have happy baby and mum than stressed ones

My LO continually possets up to an hour and a half after his bottle so don worry about it. The MW in hospital advised Aptamil as she said it was the better out of the 3.

LO had firs 4 hours of settling in at nursery for when I go back to work next week... he loved it so no worries about the 2 days when he goes there which is a relief and touch wood he got back into sleeping through last night from 8-6 which is also handy for when I go back to work...so I treated myself to some new underwear today... how sad eh!!! :j

tsstss7

dougggie wrote: »

Thanks for that! Have just realised how little i actually know about bottle feeding a baby since all the post-birth info is geared to breast feeding... have no idea how much the baby should "posset" up after a feed, but suspect it isn't the projectile vomit we got last night which went on for 4 or 5 spurts Nobody has shown me how to burp the baby properly, or said how long it should take for them to need burping. Is this another how long is a piece of string answer?
Then also don't know if that's due to a reaction to the formula or just that the teat is too fast flowing or what have you. Shouldn't be i suppose since it's an anti-colic size 1? which came with the tommy tippee steriliser but have no idea. Have sent DS out to get some avent newborn ones today.
Feel so inadequate as had expressed 90mls for this morning's first feed and it wasn't enough, so had to go through the pain of feeding him extra from source via nipple shields, hoping he didn't notice the extra protein he was getting from the bleeding bits :rolleyes:

Great admiration for those of you with more than one kid on the go, feeling my age very much now!

If you need a book for advice on bottle feeding "nanny knows best" does a chapter on this although the info from the birth to five book your health visitor gives you pretty much covers the basics - nanny not being her charges parent would mainly bottlefeed them so I expect she had a fair amount of experience. Can't quote it I'm afraid I read it while pregnant and can only remember tiny amounts (plus I wasn't going to need these tips as I was adamant i wasn't going to ff!!! sometimes life justs getsn inthe way:D )

As to the nipple pain - yep been there too, I found LANISOH via the hv and cannot recommend it enough - I was very close to giving up when she gave me some samples.

Congrats on keeping going though :T.