It was getting tough in 2006 and the workhouse still threatens us in 2011

Hobsons_Choice

They've taken off our bus into the big city...it was obviously FAR too popular!!!
So....I had to get myself a Senior Rail Pass, and did it through Tesco Clubcard Points. Normal cost £28 a year, Clubcard cost £14 with vouchers. Still annoying though, the bus was free with my Senior pass :mad:

Reverbe

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

Just read this........ it is a scary outlook......... so batton down the hatches, stock up and only keep what you have to in the banks :eek: next year looks like a very bumpy ride
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/8744416/Marks-and-Spencer-Debenhams-and-other-retailers-cut-by-Citigroup.html

makes common sense to me. retailers are not going to be a good buy shares wise as ppl dont have the money to spend..:cool:

ginnyknit

Paid in chickens, how cruel of someone to say that to you, if you want 4 kids you damn well have 4 kids. I love your answer though, hopefully it put them firmly in their place. Redundancy is scary and more so when your home goes with your job. People seem to forget there is a huge workforce keeping the services going. Well done for leaving your job and cutting back.

Hobsons choice thats a new one on me using clubcard points on travel.
I was in Manchester city centre the other day and you cannot find a loo for love nor money, there used to be public loo's everywhere.I had to trail up 3 escalators in Deben**s to use theirs - what will they cut back on next!

Off to try out our new Asd* , its just round the corner and at last I can nip out for supplies without a bus ride. Supermarkets nowadays are geared to cars and you have a long walk from the road to the store, however this is a little shop and I won't be exhausted by the time I have bought some milk!

Butterfly_Brain

Seakay wrote: »

Not really - 1920s-30s you had job shortages as some returned from war, one of the worst winters on record coinciding with fuel shortages, then even more adults killed off by virulent flu virus and then the stock market collapsed leading to mass unemployment in America and very hard times over here

1970s there was a three day week (and you were only paid for when you worked) power cuts, fuel shortages leading to empty petrol pumps, unheated schools and offices etc. strikes leading to train stoppages and even more power cuts and rubbish all over the streets,

1980-90s interest rates weree through the roof - I got a mortgage in 1991 and the interest rate increased about every 3 months for the first two years

A lot of people like to blame Maggie Thatcher for a great deal of the most recent hardship; I prefer to blame the people who voted her into power and allowed her to do all the things that she had promised to do. Perhaps they didn't bother to read the manifestos?
One thing she didn't do was pose as a left wing leader, get a huge majority and then curtail civil liberites, misuse the legal system and break all manifestio promises.

I remember thr 3 day week, power cuts and sugar and bread shortages, there was fuel rationing in the 70's as well and we all had fuel ration books issued

We had only started buying our first house in the 1980's and the interest rates were crippling I can remember a 15% interest rate and that was when the average wage was £6,000 pa equivalent to £19,000 today and a 2 up 2 down cost £25,000. The 90's were just as bad.

I blame Ted Heath and all other Tory and Labour politicians for signing our sovereignty away we only voted to be trade partners with the EU and not to join a dictatorship :mad:
We have been living in a Fauxmocracy for years and bit by bit our freedoms and civil rights have been eroded and I think this lot that are in now are going to kill the Economy, NHS and welfare system.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Butterfly_Brain

ceridwen wrote: »

Not forgetting those descriptions from Nella Last's book that she wrote after the 2nd World War about a tired, dispirited Nation and rationing continuing for years after the war. Also problems finding jobs for the returning soldiers.

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I remember those high interest rates on mortgages - they were :eek: to deal with I DO recall. All that extra money to what I had bargained on going out on mortgage payments each month:eek::(. Or - to be more exact - all that extra money I had to earn to cover the higher payments:eek::(.

I recall there was a 3 day week - but I dont actually remember anything about it other than the fact that I read about it in the newspapers. I dont have any memory of thinking "Agh - they've cut my pay" - so my salary must have continued on as normal - though I dont recall whether I was actually at work or no all 5 days as normal (cant have been - as my workplace of the time was far too dark to manage without artificial light on....:cool:). The only recollection I have (which I think must have been from that time) was going and doing someone else's shopping for them from elsewhere in the country (ie because they couldnt get it in their own area).

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Now wondering if anyone has any links to good websites that give a good history of the 1920s/30s period? (summat along lines of both the facts and the inner motivations and feelings of people of the time in dealing with the times).

Cannae recall the name of a book that has just come out about the Elizabethan period in England - but it gives details of the motivations/etc of the queen of the time and other Elizabethans (ie to explain a mindset that is rather different to that of nowadays - leading to different actions to what a 20th/21st century person would do) = something written along those lines about the 1920s/30s would be good:) (bearing in mind I'm becoming pretty aware that a lot of the "societal mindset" in 2011 is rather different to that prevalent earlier in my own lifetime - so 90/100 years ago it will be different again...).

http://www.ukrecession.com/2009/05/uk-recession-depression/

Butterfly_Brain

The only good thing about the 70's recession was that everyone was in the same boat (poor as a church mouse) but we had a much better community spirit, everyone pulled together and that is sadly lacking now.

Uniscots97

Talking of pay cuts, I was made redundant from a job 2 years ago. They cut everyone's pay in 2003 and never paid it back or put it back to what it was supposed to be (1/5 taken off). This was meant to prevent more redundancies yet they kept paying people off. This meant the debt I had (still do) just got higher and higher. If it hadn't have been for the pay cut I would have been clearing my debt this year. We ended up working to rule and supplementing our income with all the surveys/clicks/ebaying you can think of. I lost count of the times where ebay or carboot money went to pay a bill. In a much better job now but will be happy when my debt is cleared even though thats a good way off. We were all in the same boat in that job, but it was as if no one else understood. At least on here we all think along the same lines, maybe the rest of society could learn a thing or two from the threads on here. Its time that greed was stamped out and manners and respect were encouraged.

pelirocco

ceridwen wrote: »

Not forgetting those descriptions from Nella Last's book that she wrote after the 2nd World War about a tired, dispirited Nation and rationing continuing for years after the war. Also problems finding jobs for the returning soldiers.

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I remember those high interest rates on mortgages - they were :eek: to deal with I DO recall. All that extra money to what I had bargained on going out on mortgage payments each month:eek::(. Or - to be more exact - all that extra money I had to earn to cover the higher payments:eek::(.

I recall there was a 3 day week - but I dont actually remember anything about it other than the fact that I read about it in the newspapers. I dont have any memory of thinking "Agh - they've cut my pay" - so my salary must have continued on as normal - though I dont recall whether I was actually at work or no all 5 days as normal (cant have been - as my workplace of the time was far too dark to manage without artificial light on....:cool:). The only recollection I have (which I think must have been from that time) was going and doing someone else's shopping for them from elsewhere in the country (ie because they couldnt get it in their own area).

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Now wondering if anyone has any links to good websites that give a good history of the 1920s/30s period? (summat along lines of both the facts and the inner motivations and feelings of people of the time in dealing with the times).

Cannae recall the name of a book that has just come out about the Elizabethan period in England - but it gives details of the motivations/etc of the queen of the time and other Elizabethans (ie to explain a mindset that is rather different to that of nowadays - leading to different actions to what a 20th/21st century person would do) = something written along those lines about the 1920s/30s would be good:) (bearing in mind I'm becoming pretty aware that a lot of the "societal mindset" in 2011 is rather different to that prevalent earlier in my own lifetime - so 90/100 years ago it will be different again...).

It was 1972/3 , so nearly 40 yrs ago ..I thought you were younger then that?

redlady_1

Paid in chickens - what was the blokes response to you saying that? Not to mention if people didnt go to carboots then he wouldnt have a job now would he?? Obnoxious !!!!!!!!

One of my friends was one of the WO's who received notice of redundancy by email. Got to love the MOD!! If you think the government is bad then you need dealings with the MOD. They are a total shower. Grrrr.

Mum is now back from Canada and has had a wonderful time. I am so pleased as she has worked flipping hard all her life and its about time she reaped the rewards.

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