Work Programme

john539

They shouldn't put you forward for jobs without your agreement.

If they do, you haven't applied.

Reverbe

heathertheblether wrote: »

I. There is bound to be some red tape nonsense somewhere that states not allowing them to distribute your CV is in contravention of the rules of the work programme.

I would think this would contravene data protection as most ppls CV has their name address and phone number. To distribute that to unknown third parties without your express consent in every regard/incidence would surely contravene some law/ruling..Lawyers help here??

Reverbe

john539 wrote: »

They shouldn't put you forward for jobs without your agreement.

If they do, you haven't applied.

Exactly John. To be honest when I read this I envisaged a situation where employer calls you etc to set up an interview etc and you are non plussed as you know nothing about it...and "you" havent applied for it at all..

donnajunkie

john539 wrote: »

They shouldn't put you forward for jobs without your agreement.

If they do, you haven't applied.

i cant see a provider or the jobcentre accepting you turning down a job because you didnt put the application forward yourself. the only way out would be to show good reason why you shouldnt apply.

donnajunkie

Reverbe wrote: »

I would think this would contravene data protection as most ppls CV has their name address and phone number. To distribute that to unknown third parties without your express consent in every regard/incidence would surely contravene some law/ruling..Lawyers help here??

they get you to sign a form allowing them to pass your cv onto employers when you start.

john539

donnajunkie wrote: »

i cant see a provider or the jobcentre accepting you turning down a job because you didnt put the application forward yourself. the only way out would be to show good reason why you shouldnt apply.

The provider should not submit you for jobs without your knowledge or agreement.

The Jobcentre would not do this.

Just as at Jobcentre should not give you jobs to apply for, you should discuss & agree to take details to apply.

There is a subtle but important difference.

If provider submits you for job without your knowledge, if you tell them that you want to discuss future jobs, that's what they must/should do.

You're the person applying for the job, not them.

heathertheblether

john539 wrote: »

The provider should not submit you for jobs without your knowledge or agreement.

The Jobcentre would not do this.

Just as at Jobcentre should not give you jobs to apply for, you should discuss & agree to take details to apply.

There is a subtle but important difference.

If provider submits you for job without your knowledge, if you tell them that you want to discuss future jobs, that's what they must/should do.

You're the person applying for the job, not them.

Thank you for clarifying this. Much appreciated.

Reverbe

donnajunkie wrote: »

they get you to sign a form allowing them to pass your cv onto employers when you start.

no Donna they dont well Maximus didnt on mine...

excalibar

Reverbe wrote: »

no Donna they dont well Maximus didnt on mine...

@Reverbe how often you do attend Maximus and what are you're hours? also how do they decide who comes in the mornings, afternoons and early evenings? because I hear it goes by your surname? i.e people with surname begining with A must come in the mornings, is this correct? is it possible you can change your hours to mid-afternoons or evenings?

About CVs and personal info being sent to third parties I just recently heard from someone that they only send your details/CVs with your knowlege prior. They said folks have no reason to refuse their details-CVs going to third parties/employers as it's the same thing as applying for a job yourself except they (Maximus) do it with you and for you, but with you're knowlege. Basically they tell you first where your CVs and info is going and where..But is this all different then actually signing forms/waivers where by our personal goes to third parties? then again the forms we fill don't they state to whome out details go to? if so then we don't have a valid reason to refuse our details being passed on to employers?

Someone I know took refusal letters with her to the work Programme and told her that you have no reason to refuse and if you do then it shows you're not serious about looking for work and not actively seeking work as agreed on your jobseekers-allowance. They said to her why do you want to refuse giving your details to perpective employers. They told her any info/details/CVs you give go to third parties with your knowledge, they basically tell you first where and when your CVs or any personal details go to employers & third parties. So it seems those refusal letters aren't going to get people anywhere?.. In a way if we say no and don't want our details/CVs going to employers through work-programme it kind of shows we are in the wrong? like I said they told her they will let her know first where her details will be going and when, so really these refusal letters are invalid? instead of us applying the jobs ourselves they basically apply for us or with us, but at least with our knowledge, so if we refuse what reason do we give? if anything it attacts sanctions right?

Reverbe

excalibar I think from your post you seem to be mixing ppl up. You mention changing my hours etc..I posted here with reference to them contravening data protection by submitting your home personal details to employers without your consent???