VAT on food and drink for Wedding

Flyboy152

fallenstar wrote: »

In what way would that be Tax evasion??

The issue is that they never informed us that food and drink did not include VAT. When we were budgeting to see how much the wedding would come to, we never factored in VAT on food and Drink. So as you can imagine a hike in the total cost was not expected, thus my reason for questioning it.

Because it is assumed that paying a seller in hard readies is for them to avoid declaring the sale to HMRC.

What benefit did you assume paying in cash would have had to the venue?

fallenstar_2

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Because it is assumed that paying a seller in hard readies is for them to avoid declaring the sale to HMRC.

What benefit did you assume paying in cash would have had to the venue?

I assumed that paying by credit/debit card, there is a charge for these transactions for businesses. I might be wrong but thought, that businesses liked to deal with cash and not for illegal reasons. Forgive my naivety.

Flyboy152

fallenstar wrote: »

I assumed that paying by credit/debit card, there is a charge for these transactions for businesses. I might be wrong but thought, that businesses liked to deal with cash and not for illegal reasons. Forgive my naivety.

I didn't mean anything judgemental by my query, I was merely asking out of curiosity.

fallenstar_2

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I didn't mean anything judgemental by my query, I was merely asking out of curiosity.

No offence taken. I appreciate your explanation, and also for your help on the VAT issue.

cheers

arcon5

fallenstar wrote: »

In what way would that be Tax evasion??.

Because its quite obvious what you meant by wanting a lesser price "for cash".

Flyboy152

arcon5 wrote: »

Because its quite obvious what you meant by wanting a lesser price "for cash".

A misunderstanding perhaps; not uncommon on these boards.

arcon5

Flyboy152 wrote: »

But the do the regulations not state that all prices directed at consumers must include VAT and aren't there penalties for not doing so?

I'm not arguing with you and do agree they should have advised the prices excluded VAT. But that aside at the moment, to me it doesn't sound like there was any malice or deception intended by not making it clearer.

Flyboy152

arcon5 wrote: »

I'm not arguing with you and do agree they should have advised the prices excluded VAT. But that aside at the moment, to me it doesn't sound like there was any malice or deception intended by not making it clearer.

I wouldn't know about that to be honest. There can be some sellers who do this on purpose, to entice a consumer to commit. Nonetheless, I don't think that Trading Standards or HMRC really care about intention in these matters.

P.S. I am not arguing either, just sayin', is all.

arcon5

fallenstar wrote: »

I assumed that paying by credit/debit card, there is a charge for these transactions for businesses. I might be wrong but thought, that businesses liked to deal with cash and not for illegal reasons. Forgive my naivety.

With all due resepct.. you can't have thought that the saving from card to cash would equate to them passing on the 20% VAT was adding, surely?

Maybe i'm just far too sceptical.

Tbh though, cash transactions can be much more hassled than paying about 2-3% for cards, when you factor in costs relatign to cash handling e.g. cost of banking/securicor collecting; additional labour; ect)

arcon5

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I wouldn't know about that to be honest. There can be some sellers who do this on purpose, to entice a consumer to commit. Nonetheless, I don't think that Trading Standards or HMRC really care about intention in these matters.

P.S. I am not arguing either, just sayin', is all.

There's probably many out there that do this as common practice, but in ops case they provided a quote which clearly stated the costs of the services, the taxes and presumably a grand-total... and no mention of being pressured to commit or hide the taxes.

Although agreeably they should make it clearer on menus as not to cause confusion.

I wonder what percentage of clients are corporate:consumers.