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Any help with doggy breath?

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  • MrandMrsB
    MrandMrsB Posts: 187 Forumite
    darlyd wrote: »
    OH NO!

    That brought a tear to my eye, We not long lost Sam to a tumour, no symptoms except a fit then 2 weeks later a huge fit. :(

    Molly has been quiet lately, not her usual playful self, and to be honest not bothered when I come home from work, and sit down for my dinner. Thought it was down to no Sam and a new puppy.

    Oh god, I am taking her Vet Wednesday.

    Fingers crossed she is OK, could not bare losing her.. She is my baby girl.... :(

    Oh sorry, I didn't mean to frighten you, it's just that had we realised that we had cancer when we adopted him there might have been a cure, although treatment would have been cruel IMPO.

    I am convinced that his only visible symptom was the bad breath. He used to be violently sick when we first adopted him, and again it stank. After around six months (he was hidden from his evil previous owner for ages) I took him to the vet who said he was a very healthy dog who was very lucky to have landed on his feet!!! He visited the vet recently but again nothing was picked up.

    He had the most wonderful time with us, and we absolutely adored him. Even after a month I still cannot believe that he died because it was all so sudden - the vet did operate but my DD (darling dog!) was riddled with it by then. People used to comment on the transformation from an unhealthy fat dog (his former neighbours used to give him treats because they felt sorry for him) to a beautiful healthy dog.

    After he died the vet commented that almost all dogs have cancer but they can live with it for many years. I blame "derivatives" and would never feed them to a dog. Before we adopted him his diet was the worst imaginable for a dog and the owner was depraved....just think of all the worst things a woman could do and your have it.....drug dealer / user, alcoholic, on the game even though she was HIV-positive, and she was responsible for at least two deaths.....how she got away with it is beyond me.

    I am hoping your dog is ok - please let us know.
  • candygirl
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    My staffies both have a carrot a day, their breath smells ok and their teeth are fab according to the vet:D:D:D
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  • suki1964
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    candygirl wrote: »
    My staffies both have a carrot a day, their breath smells ok and their teeth are fab according to the vet:D:D:D

    Precisely the same thing here - carrots, turnips,swede, chicken wings. Helps keep sweet smelling breath and teeth tartar free

    And cost next to nothing as they are things Id be having in the house anyways :D
  • Molly41
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    I had an issue with one of my westie's breath. The vet sniffed....very brave vet....and told me that my dog's breath was not that doggy and that dogs do have doggy breath:o
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
    Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
    I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over and through me. When it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
    When the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
  • Fire_Fox
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    MrandMrsB wrote: »
    After he died the vet commented that almost all dogs have cancer but they can live with it for many years. I blame "derivatives" and would never feed them to a dog. Before we adopted him his diet was the worst imaginable for a dog and the owner was depraved....just think of all the worst things a woman could do and your have it.....drug dealer / user, alcoholic, on the game even though she was HIV-positive, and she was responsible for at least two deaths.....how she got away with it is beyond me.

    I am going to make a couple of assumptions here. Firstly given the lifestyle you describe, I think it highly likely people smoked in this person's home and therefore your dog passive smoked. Secondly that he was fed the cheapest pet food, which means it is likely to be high in cereals. Finely ground or refined cereals behave like sugar in the body and there is strong evidence sugar causes inflammation and suppresses immune function in humans. IMO the worst imaginable diet for a dog would be scraps of junk food, it wouldn't be a food containing derivatives that was at least designed for the correct species.

    Whilst I don't in any way condone lack of care of any innocent animal (and fervently hope she was prosecuted), the remainder evokes feelings of pity. There is a high chance she has been raped, beaten, imprisoned, been in care or abused as a child, several STDs, abortion, diagnosed with at least one mental health condition. I'm not sure I could come up with a better life sentence TBH.

    She is unlikely to have forced any customer to have unprotected sex with her, if they can't work out a drug addled prostitute is at high risk of HIV (and a host of other nasties) it's better they get knob rot and removed from the genetic pool by mother nature. :eek:
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  • Dollardog
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    My old Boxer had amongst other things smelly breath, it comes with having the type of mouth they do. I started giving him Propolis capsules because he also had problems with his joints. He used to have to have tablets from the vets for it on a regular basis and also had two tablets a day for his joints. When I started giving him the Propolis (2 a day), I was able to cut out the mouth tablets altogether and he only needed a painkiller for his joints every now and then. After a few months of not needing any repeat tablets from the vets, the vet asked me what I was giving him as his leg joints were not as stiff and his mouth was no longer smelly even though he wasn't taking any of the vet's tablets. He was amazed at the difference, in fact, he even started his mother in law on them for her arthritis.
    My current dog has been on them since I had him and has never had smelly breath.
  • MrandMrsB
    MrandMrsB Posts: 187 Forumite
    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    I am going to make a couple of assumptions here. Firstly given the lifestyle you describe, I think it highly likely people smoked in this person's home and therefore your dog passive smoked. Secondly that he was fed the cheapest pet food, which means it is likely to be high in cereals. Finely ground or refined cereals behave like sugar in the body and there is strong evidence sugar causes inflammation and suppresses immune function in humans. IMO the worst imaginable diet for a dog would be scraps of junk food, it wouldn't be a food containing derivatives that was at least designed for the correct species.

    Whilst I don't in any way condone lack of care of any innocent animal (and fervently hope she was prosecuted), the remainder evokes feelings of pity. There is a high chance she has been raped, beaten, imprisoned, been in care or abused as a child, several STDs, abortion, diagnosed with at least one mental health condition. I'm not sure I could come up with a better life sentence TBH.

    She is unlikely to have forced any customer to have unprotected sex with her, if they can't work out a drug addled prostitute is at high risk of HIV (and a host of other nasties) it's better they get knob rot and removed from the genetic pool by mother nature. :eek:

    I don't know much about her background except to say that her sisters are "normal". Horrible things happened to me, but I don't use them as an excuse to be evil and have no wish to either! Usually I feel genuinely sorry for people like her, but not for her because she abused the dog, her daughter, ruined other lives, and she is such a good liar that she was not prosecuted for what happened to any of them.

    She did not buy dog food but fed him on a small quantity of other inappropriate foods (afraid to say what on here for fear of being identified), gave him some of her junk food and neighbours gave him lots of dog biscuits.

    You are right, she smoked anything she could get her hands on of course. I have never come across a dog who picked up so much rubbish from the ground and licked carpets like he did, and I often wondered what he was searching for (remnants of drugs perhaps?).

    A week before he collapsed, a chap told me that his two rescued dogs died of cancer soon after he adopted them, and I thought thank goodness my dog is well! I mentioned derivates and he said he fed them on natural food (meat from butcher, etc), but he had no idea what they ate in their previous lives. So I mentioned passive smoking and told him that our dog had been exposed to it and drugs of all descriptions.

    I used to help a dog rescue charity and we noticed that most of the dogs who were rehomed to people who smoked were dying when they were relatively young (we know that some of them had lung cancer). Maybe they were short of money, or maybe it was their whole lifestyles (as you mentioned). Anyway, whatever the reason, it was so obvious that we decided not to re-home dogs to people who smoke.
  • estelle123
    estelle123 Posts: 446 Forumite
    My 7 year old Poodle had really smelly breath,and i mean smelly.I tried everything including brushing his teeth.Took him to the vet and he needed extractions and cleaning,he had 8 teeth removed last week and a really good clean.He now has lovely breath and has plenty of kisses.:j
  • I have a similar problem - sometimes his breath is OK, other times it's really, really horrible.

    He has been seen by the vet and, yes, he could do with a dental as there are a couple of not very nice teeth there.

    However, I've also been told that there's a pretty high risk of him not surviving the anaesetic (sp?) due to his a) age and b) medical problems (cancer, time is limited :sad: but he's still loving life and it's not bothering him just now) - anyway ... how's that for a choice:(.

    I've asked the vet if there is any way of cleaning the teeth without "a general" but been told - no - however, I'm sure when you see programmes such as Animal Cops etc on Animal Planet they can sedate dogs & do it (rather than totally knock them out). Does anyone know why they won't do it here?

    He was also fed the most appalling diet before I had him, when he came I asked what he was fed on and got "whatever's cheapest at the shops when I go to buy it".

    He's getting a bone every so often (free from the butcher for a wee donation to the charity tin) which are helping but it obviously won't solve the problems of the ones that really should come out.

    Tankgirl thanks for the tips, off to search for Plaque-Off now.
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  • Beckyy
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    Most dental sticks' main ingredients are fillers, I wouldn't waste money on them.

    If there are no underlyng problems then a marrow bone from the butcher will really help to clean teeth.
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