working non dependant refusing to pay rent

HappyMJ

theartfullodger wrote: »

Son sounds a complete b****ard of the sort we don't want here..


No offence but, do the benefits people know about his income/status & if you receive HB/LHA would the payment of HB be compromised by his paying you anything??

You can receive up to £4250 pa (about £80/week, £354/month..) rent under the rent-a-room scheme without paying tax but anything over than (eg .jc808's £400/month) would have to be declared and tax possibly paid. Benefit entitlement is an entirely different matter to rent-a-room..

Cheers!

Artful

Rent a room scheme excludes family members. You can receive as much as you want and all is excluded from taxes. A set scale is used to figure how much is included for benefits whether is is being paid or not. So benefit people could be including something and reducing the HB payable to the lead tenant..the parent. But good idea to kick this non paying free loader out and rent the room out to someone else who will pay. I can't believe someone earning £900 can't pay anything due to "lack of money", "can't afford it". What is the money being spent on? Saturday nights in town?

RAS

The OP will be losing HB/LHA via the non=-dependents assumed contribution to the tune of £62 ish per week and there will be an assumption that he is paying towards Council Tax (not sure how much that is), unless he can prove a low income, which £900 pcm would exceed.

So £400 pcm would cover the reduced HB/LHA benefit and the CT liablity and not much else.

OP, you must not just be struggling but desparate.

Start by making sure the CT bill has his name on it as well. That is a joint and several liability which means the bailiffs can chase him for it, not you. Afterall if he leaves, you are not liable for anything.

Then give him opne week to pay you £500 or he leaves. Write out a lodging agreement in which you list replacement of non-dependant assumed contribution, Council Tax, a quarter share of the water rates, and all other utilities. Ask him how much he wants to contribute towards food and fee him that amount per week.

Either he pays or leaves.

Grumpy_Old_Duffer

I think the OP is getting the general concensus of opinion here. Someone is taking the p**s in your household.

I wish I was earning £900 a month AND IT WAS ALL MINE!!!!!!

Time to put his possessions outside and you shouldn't feel guilty about it, or any other suggestions above, as he obviously doesn't feel guilty about spending all his money on himself.

One additional thought, print-out this thread and give it to him to read!!

jamespir

tell him to sod off cheeky little git he can certaintly afford a palce on 900 pounds a month

HappyMJ

jamespir wrote: »

tell him to sod off cheeky little git he can certaintly afford a palce on 900 pounds a month

Not much of a place on minimum wage times 38 hours but it'll be something. It'll be much better for him to stay with parents for free.

I suppose the original question "Is there any way I can legally make him do either?" has never really been answered. The answer is no.

birdi

Thankyou for all your comments, reading through them all is proving to me what a mug I am. I've even gone down the route of asking his selfish father (also father of my disabled daughter who has refused to pay the little child maintenance for the last 6 months despite daughter still being in full time education, ) who owns his own place with his wife, if he can put him up, to which i got told " my spare room is full of junk... its not sons place to pay go out & get a F**king job!"
my conclusion from the comments is basically kick him out, but only one person stating there is no legal way do do so.
I have now told him that he can stay 2 nights a week after that he's on his own unless he stumps up.
Oh & as for letting him use the shed..... I'm not going to let my chickens be traumatised by sharing their home :wall:

Niv

Sorry to hear your son is a twonk. Maybe he will realise how unreasonable he is being and help you out. Let us know how you get on as I see you have told him to buck his ideas up.

Niv

DannyboyMidlands

What do you mean a legal way? So that taxpayers can pick up the tab for your lack of backbone?

Just grow a pair and kick the sponger out yourself.

Thefunkygibbons

It is a common problem, but there will be no change of behaviour unless he thinks you are serious

BitterAndTwisted

Go through the local paper and show him what the rents are for flat or house-sharing in your area. Give him a price and a deadline to come up with a reasonable amount. If he won't cough up there is no reason why you cannot evict him. There are families up and down the country who don't have a tiny percentage of that much disposable income a month.

State your case and be firm about it. He needs to know that you are serious and are not going to be bullied or taken advantage of or he'll be freeloading off you until Doomsday.