Speeding Fines For Foreigners

Woody._2

vax2002 wrote: »

They are not legal persons of the EU so are not bonded as you and I to obey primary legislation (offences) they can only be prosecuted for breaking the Law, legislation is not the law, it an act of statute given the force of law by consent, that consent is given by your parents when they register your birth to the crown.

So how come you can arrest them, refuse them bail and place them straight before a court?

HO87

I think vax has adopted the viewpoint of a freeman-on-the-land rather than that of the corporation of the UK (as he would see it) making us subject to Admiralty & Mercantile Law. I note that his username is spelt using lowercase rather than mine spelled out in capitals.

thenudeone

eamon wrote: »

Read that but it doesn't say anything about dealing with driving licences that originate outside of UK and the EU.

Not sure what you mean.

It only applies to EU drivers, according to the title to section 3.6

3.6. Fixed Penalties and European Union/Northern Ireland Drivers
3.6.1. On the 1st April 2009,Sections 8 and 9 and Schedule 2 of the Road Safety Act 2006 came into force which enables Foreign Licence Holders to accept an endorsable fixed penalty notice without the need to acquire a DVLA Counterpart.

The rest of section 3.6 very clearly explains what happens when an EU licence holder commits an offence eligible for a fixed penalty notice.

NB:
CTO = Central Ticket Office
HO/RT2 is the form completed at a Police station front desk when documents are produced
OIC = Officer in charge of the case
SEO = ?? Station Enquiry Officer ?? (Front desk staff)

Whatdoiknow

Apologies for not getting back sooner, I am currently only on the internet at work so can only respond when in at work so thanks for all the replies.

As far as I am aware, the guy is an Aussie, working in the US and has a US driving licence and was visiting the UK operations and was driving a hire car.

He is happy to pay or should I say he is prepared to pay the I assume £60.00 fine.

As soon as I receive the notice of Intended Prosecution after being sent to the hire car firm I will complete with all the driver's relevant details.

I was wondering if they do write to foreign drivers who live abroad and ask them for their licence and it seems they wouldn't so if they don't would they just write and ask him to pay the fine.

Cheers.

Martin

HO87

Whatdoiknow wrote: »

I was wondering if they do write to foreign drivers who live abroad and ask them for their licence and it seems they wouldn't so if they don't would they just write and ask him to pay the fine.

Cheers.

Martin

I refer you to my earliest post. If the chap concerned has now returned to the US (or Australia) then it would be as well that you prepare some evidence to show that he had genuinely been visiting this country and that he has since left (outbound flight details are commonly asked for and checked). You will also probably be asked to show that his use of the vehicle in question was insured - although as a hire car this shouldn't be a problem.

Attempting to blame "mysterious" visitors for such offences is unfortunately a common excuse that the police are more than wise to. As a consequence you should expect the matter to be followed up - probably quite robustly. Once the police are satisfied that he was here legitimately that is likely to be the end of the matter. As using this type of excuse can amount to attempting to pervert the course of justice you might want to be completely sure that your overseas colleague was the driver - just in case things go pear-shaped. The offence inevitably carries jail time.

Whatdoiknow

Thanks H087, the gentleman concerned is head of our US operations and we will have all flight details as well as email back up and I assume the hire company requested to see his licence as the hire car invoice has him as the named hirer. All company cars and cars that are hired for any of our Company employees is covered by blanket insurance.

Cheers,

Martin