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Arrrgghhh so angry, for those who say just get a job stacking shelves

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  • J_i_m
    J_i_m Posts: 1,342 Forumite
    I think you're missing something... Students, or people aged 16/17 and still in full time education and hence less qualifications, have a lower minimum wage and hence are cheaper to employ.

    I don't think the re-advertising a position has as much bearing on the cost of the employee.
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  • WelshPaul
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    J_i_m wrote: »
    I think you're missing something... Students, or people aged 16/17 and still in full time education and hence less qualifications, have a lower minimum wage and hence are cheaper to employ.

    But i see none of these working anywhere in the supermarkets where i live, fact is based on what i see most 16/17 year olds don't want to work these days.
    J_i_m wrote: »
    I don't think the re-advertising a position has as much bearing on the cost of the employee.

    Depends on the position and how many positions crop up.
  • Lokolo
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    There is an element of luck in interviewing but interviewing is more a skill than a piece of luck as illustrated by those that get most the jobs they apply for -v- those that get almost none.

    ^^ this. I have been to 4 face to face interviews (one part time job, 1 industrial placement, 2 graduate jobs), and have been given job offers from all.

    However, I have had 2 telephone interviews, and failed them both miserably.

    I guess I know where I am good and where I'm not ha.
  • Hammyman
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    edited 8 July 2011 at 7:04PM
    westv wrote: »
    Haven't the days of knocking on doors for jobs long gone for the most part?

    Only in so much that people aren't prepared to do it any more, are bone idle and would rather look for jobs from the comfort of their own armchair.

    In the nearby seaside resort where I grew up, hundreds of teenagers still find seasonal work by going round the ice-cream parlours, chip shops, cafes etc asking if they need anyone for the summer.

    And its interesting that on that TV programme last year where 5 celebrities were told they had to live on benefits and go and find work that those who found the most work did it by knocking on doors, asking stall holders in markets and asking people on building sites and not sitting at home on the internet looking on websites and pointlessly posting their CV online along with 2,000,000 other people.

    So knocking on doors still does work.
  • WelshPaul
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    Hammyman wrote: »
    And its interesting that on that TV programme last year where 5 celebrities were told they had to live on benefits and go and find work that those who found the most work did it by knocking on doors, asking stall holders in markets and asking people on building sites and not sitting at home on the internet looking on websites and pointlessly posting their CV online along with 2,000,000 other people.

    So knocking on doors still does work.

    Um the fact they were a celeb with a TV crew didn't help at all?

    When someone is standing in front of you with a camera crew from the bbc you would have to be a fool to turn them away without good reason. Just think of all the free advertisement for a start! lol
  • skintandscared_2
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    My own personal experience is that it's definitely WHO you know. Secured my first secretarial job while I was still finishing college - my predecessor was my mum's customer at the hairdressers and she told me to send in my CV. Second job, which was my move to London, came because a director in my first job told me to go and see his brother who was a partner in a City law firm. I have been offered every job I've ever applied for.

    I cannot count the number of applicants I have interviewed who are late, scruffy and unmotivated. Shy and nervous I can deal with, but when I see how some people conduct themselves in interviews I realise why SOME people are unemployed for so long. It honestly doesn't take much to stand out these days. For a junior secretarial position I must have seen about 100 CV's, interviewed about 10 and literally just 1 was remotely employable.
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  • tiff
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    As someone who interviews, give us tips on how to stand out. Interviews are very different to how they were when I got my first job 25 years ago, my first job was in an insurance company and the interview was more of a casual chat than anything else!
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  • Mistral001
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    edited 9 July 2011 at 10:14AM
    I agree with the OP's sentiments. Someone over-qualified for shelf stacking will find it tough to get a shelf-stacking job.

    When at the interview when pushed as to why you want this job, you cannot really say that you want to make it a long-term job. Any interviewer worth their salary will pick the person who is likely to stay for a while, over anybody who sees the job as filling in until they get something else.

    They could lie about their qualifications. But do we want toinstill dishonesty in these graduates so early in their working life. Many of these graduates are our future doctors, lawyers, design engineers, government administrators, chartered accountants, news paper editors, and business leaders after all.
  • Truegho
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    Greenst, I totally agree with you. It IS hard to get even a job in a supermarket in these dire times.

    So all those on here who are too quick to shout us unemployed down - well, they need to get real, don't they?


    Greenst wrote: »
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    I get so angry looking at posts on this site from people desperate to get a job where replies say "well just get a job stacking shelves". Or "get a part time job" or "a summer job in a supermarket until something else comes up"!

    There are no jobs out there! Those in work just don't seem to get it and reading through the posts on here the 'advice' seems to be from people who are happily in work. I have been lucky to have recently found a part time job it's only 2 days a week and min wage, today I got sent home early as the work has just dried up, I am hoping and praying that next week when I go in there will be work and I won't be laid off, and that's after a year of looking for full-time work.

    A friends daughter is looking for summer work until she goes back to college, she has already had her EMA stopped thanks to government cutbacks and lost her job recently in a little local supermarket due to lack of business, even though she has retail experience she has tried all the big shops, Tesco, Sainsburys, Asda etc but there's nothing, not even stacking shelves.

    I wish people would stop saying find a job in a supermarket, there so many posts on here from people who are completely dumbfounded when they find that there are either no jobs in the supermarkets or they have had interviews or sent their CVs and not got a job, even though they may be well qualified or what some would consider over qualified.

    It's NOT easy out there at a time when what used to be considered 'lowly' jobs are difficult to come by and secure.
  • Hammyman
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    WelshPaul wrote: »
    Um the fact they were a celeb with a TV crew didn't help at all?
    They didn't when they were doing the job hunting other than the odd covert camera shot.
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