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Rufus Roo jacket review thread

edited 27 November 2012 at 3:58PM in Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning
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  • I am 5'2 and a size 10,it is bad enough sitting next to a large person as it is without this stuffed jacket,can you imagine it,last person on the plane who is huge anyway then arriving next to you with one of these on and no room in the hold???? Selfish inconsiderate....Penuts give me awful wind,I will be taking onboard a huge pack,just incase it ever happens to me lol Can you imagine the smell,my wind and the sweat belching out of the michelin impersonation...my advice dont even consider ryan air anyway,
    just go to youtube facinating aida-cheap flights!
    get real guys :)
  • And of course while we are at it we should ban fat people, children under the age of 11, the elderly and disabled people as they could all potentially cause a problem should you have to evacuate a plane.

    On the other hand the airline could simply be sensible and not try to rip people off then we wouldnt have to consider buying jackets like these.
  • edited 6 July 2011 at 10:55PM
    jojo90_2jojo90_2 Forumite
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    edited 6 July 2011 at 10:55PM
    This is clearly targeted at people who are willing to wear a bum bag in public, socks with sandals, or have no mirrors in their home.

    I'd pay Ryanair the baggage allowance and an extra £50 if they could promise not to sit me next to someone wearing one of these.

    Has people's basic sense of style deteriorated in this country to such a point that wearing fat jackets in public is deemed acceptable and without shame?

    This is just wrong on so many levels not least basic consideration for other passengers. This is not moneysaving it's just a plain stupid and irresponsible idea. If I find one of these taking up overhead locker space with no room to fit my bag it's going on the floor (and believe me I'd win that argument). Flights are bad enough with screaming kids and smelly obese people without adding to the problem.

    Stop being tight and either pay up or take less.

    I'm moving to Milan. Rumour mill tells me it's a criminal offence over there for people to wear these in public.

    Perhaps I should forward this thread to Ryanair.

    :A
  • jojo90_2jojo90_2 Forumite
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    And of course while we are at it we should ban fat people, children under the age of 11, the elderly and disabled people as they could all potentially cause a problem should you have to evacuate a plane.

    On the other hand the airline could simply be sensible and not try to rip people off then we wouldnt have to consider buying jackets like these.

    Point 1) Good idea. You have my support.

    Point 2) - Do you think it's cheap to run an airline? Sure they are sneaky and I fully support people who want to spend half an hour purchasing pre paid cards to avoid £10... that only impacts the airline. This clearly impacts other passengers and is therefore inconsiderate. Just pack less or accept you want to take more, PAY for it, and store it in the hold where it belongs. It's not that much really is it? You don't like it then choose a different airline.

    Oh hang on, you can't because the other airlines are more expensive.

    Hmmmmm?
  • spirospiro Forumite
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    There are lots of jackets like this in the States (Martin tried one some time ago), its just they cost about $100 and a more styish.

    As for safety someone who has had too much to drink is more likely to be a problem especially as you will probably have removed this jacket during the flight and can't/won't be putting it back on in an emergency.

    This thread is about reviewing these jackets so if you have nothing useful to post, don't bother posting especially as this is a money saving site.
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    If the passenger removes the Rufus, in order to sit then its no longer a jacket its a bulky and 10 kilo item of luggage so pay for it like everyone else, the cheapskates and selfish people.
    What about fishing or shooting jackets that have lots of large pockets that people have been using on LCC flights for ages to save money??? What about a normal jacket with large pockets???

    In terms of space what about those huge quilt like coats that Bjork made fashionable?

    They only deny boarding if it is obvious the person is drunk, I have been on many flights were once you get airborne it is obvious some groups of passengers are already drunk?????

    As for being a "cheapskate", on this website that would be taken as a complement as the whole ethos of the site is about savign money, why do you think they arranged for people to get free samples of this jacket to review. If you happy to spend money when you could be saving money them maybe your on the wrong site or maybe you are a troll.
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  • skyfriendskyfriend Forumite
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    Hello everyone,

    I have worked as cabin crew for over 20 years, and might be able to give some information about how these garments might impact passenger comfort and safety.

    Regarding the weight of the items in the lockers, each locker is placarded for weight - you might be surprised how much weight they are designed to take. For example, a 737 locker can hold 80 kilos. That is a huge amount - more than 4 heavy suitcases worth. If you look at the size of the locker, to overload it would need extremely dense material (coal? bricks? :) ) that completely filled the locker to the top. Ordinary baggage and belongings just isn't dense or heavy enough. That is why the stuff in the lockers isn't checked for weight by crew onboard - it isn't necessary.

    Thinking about the limited space in the lockers, the main problem we have is actually fitting things into the space available - large square shaped things cause the most problems as the lockers fill up. It's like a jigsaw.
    I think these garments if used by everyone, might actually reduce this problem, as they are flexible and can be placed into odd shaped spaces left over. They could also be bundled up and placed in the space under the seat in front.

    With regard to emergency evacuations, we are trained to dissuade people from taking their belongings with them, but in reality many passengers do grab their hand baggage. I am guessing a bit, but I suspect that if they do have their stuff with them I would rather it was attached as a garment rather than being carried, as that would mean it would be less likely to be dropped and cause an obstruction, and would also leave both hands free to assist progress though the aircraft, exits and slides. However, large, hard items in the pockets could cause injury or damage the slides. (Slide evacuation is quite a violent and dangerous procedure - we even often get injuries during our initial training)
    The garments when fully stuffed are quite bulky and would hinder movement somewhat, but the exits and aisles can accomodate almost all human shapes and sizes, and the evacuation procedures take account of naturally differing degrees of mobilty. I dont think the jackets would create a significant extra hazard regarding passenger flow to or through exits.
    If a passenger was obviously going to obstruct an exit because of their size (for example if they need an extension to the seatbelt) then they cannot sit adjacent to an emergency exit. I would make the same decision if someone was wearing an enormously bulky garment (comedy sumo suit?). (I haven't had this yet - but you never know - I had a lady complain that her seat belt was haunted the other day:A.)

    There are stringent rules regarding the take off weight for aircraft, and they take into account the average weight of the average passenger, together with the average amount of baggage they might carry. There is a significant margin of safety allowed - this is calculated for every flight using a 'load sheet' - even if every single passenger was obese and carrying more than 20 kg of handbaggage the aircraft would still be OK. This doesn't apply for hold baggage (which is why it is weighed) or for small aircraft (which is why your handbaggage (and you!) might be weighed)
    Although some of the concerns in the previous posts are obviously strongly held, I don't see any major concerns about safety or other passengers comfort or amenties posed by these garments at all.
    Any small concerns about using up locker space or potential issues with emergency evacuation could be addressed by folding up the jacket and putting it under the seat in fornt of you when you got on, and leaving it either there or in the locker if you did have to evacuate.
    There might be some nervous fliers posting here too - some advice if you would like it - watch the safety video/demo, check out two exits, keep your seatbelt on when seated, keep sensible shoes on for take off and landing.
    Hope this was helpful,
    Happy flying!

    Richard

    P.S.:rotfl: as an aside, I think these things look hysterically funny, hats off to those with the brass neck to wear them - I don't think that many will! If you do, and you are my flight, I will certainly give you a glass of Champagne, and possibly an upgrade!
  • skyfriendskyfriend Forumite
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    I am afraid I am not assured by your tacit approval of these items.

    I do so very much hope that the wearers, in an emergency, make an unhindered escape (after everyone else), and in the event of it being in water , that they are strong enough swimmers to cope with their ridiculous billowing luggage carrier flapping around them.

    Clothing and the carrying of items on your person must be reasonable, these Rufus Jackets are unreasonable. And as usual a regulation is required to prevent people from being unreasonable.

    As I said previously we have become a society wherby some people need ever increasing regulation to act in a reasonable considerate manner.

    I agree the garments might not be considered reasonable, but I stick with my professional opinion that they do not cause a safety issue.
    Would you not agree that if your concern is safety, if the wearer would just leave them where they had put them, either in the locker or under the seat in front of them that the issue is resolved, even from your point of view?
    You make an interesting point about a water evacuation. In fact, all water based drills assume that no-one can swim. Thankfully, ditching is extremely rare, even among extremely rare emergency landings.

    Sorry I haven't reassured you!

    Richard
  • I thought you weren't allowed to stow luggage under the seats? If you stuff it under the seat in front you could it not hinder the person in that seat getting their life jacket free if such a situation did arise where they were instructed to?
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