Tyres - What is the Truth?

Hintza

The tyres were the CS2 bought from Camskill in Decmber (think with the weather they took a month to arrive) for £35 delivered.

http://www.coopertire.co.uk/sites/default/files/Cooper_CS2_data_uk.pdf

mikey72

Wig wrote: »

25 years of driving on cheapest tyres I could buy, I never have found a ditch. 15 years no claims. Currently doing 12,000 a year, previously did 60,000 a year.

If you are a sensible careful driver you will never find a ditch.

"it's the only thing keeping your car on the road" :rotfl: this line always makes me LMFAO

Didn't you buy Avons, that were made abroad recently?

Wig

Yes, AFAICR they were £3 more than the cheapest available £29 Avon instead of £26 no-name, because I wanted to buy a British made tyre to support "Buy British" as long as I could afford it. As you remember they ended up being made in China.

I also one other time (once) bought two firestone 570? and they showed no difference to the remoulds I usually used at the time. but they were like 3x the price.

I have driven 99% of time on the cheapest, including remoulds when they were available & significantly cheaper (they no longer are for me).

pitkin2020

Wig wrote: »

25 years of driving on cheapest tyres I could buy, I never have found a ditch. 15 years no claims. Currently doing 12,000 a year, previously did 60,000 a year.

If you are a sensible careful driver you will never find a ditch.

"it's the only thing keeping your car on the road" :rotfl: this line always makes me LMFAO

Thats all good and well but you only need a kid ONE DAY to run out in front of your car when its raining and using your cheapie tyres, are you going to stop in time??

If you drive sensibly and calmly there is no reason why you can't drive around on the worse tyres imaginable, even bald ones. The problem is only going arise when you need to go around a corner or stop sharply which is where a half decent tyre will make the world of difference.

Laugh all you like about the tyres being the only thing keeping your car on the road but its true they impact your steering a hell of a lot and your braking distance. I'm not saying they are the only thing needs to be maintained but its not exactly money saving skimping on tyres!!

Even mid range tyres will outlast cheap tyres for wear, will save a marginal amount MPG and can even have a saving effect on your brakes. So whilst you may save lets say £100 over midrange/premium brands your going to be changing them more frequently, using your brakes more to stop in a longer distance etc, real money saving!!

mikey72

Wig wrote: »

Yes, AFAICR they were £3 more than the cheapest available £29 Avon instead of £26 no-name, because I wanted to buy a British made tyre to support "Buy British" as long as I could afford it. As you remember they ended up being made in China.

I also one other time (once) bought two firestone 570? and they showed no difference to the remoulds I usually used at the time. but they were like 3x the price.

I have driven 99% of time on the cheapest, including remoulds when they were available & significantly cheaper (they no longer are for me).

I couldn't find the thread.
I remembered it was overseas, and thought it was china, but I was getting tempted to get a couple of winter tyres in for my wifes car, and couldn't quite remeber.
Having said that, I had a couple of Heroes all winter on mine, they were good, chinese tyres but owned by Federal in Taiwan.

slbhill

RichGold wrote: »

Tyres are the only part of the car that keeps you on the road.

Interesting. Steering has nothing to do with it then? Or suspension?
:rotfl:

bigjl

It doesn't matter how good the steering, brakes or suspension are if they have nothing with which to transfer these attributes to the tarmac.

Can't believe you actually think what you posted is helpful or factual.

Lum

bigjl wrote: »

Must admit I would fit Michelin Primacy on a car like that.

I wouldn't. Bloody eco tyres are a menace!

I recently replaced the Primacy's on my Mondeo with Dunlop SP Sport on the front only and the difference is staggering, I can set off quicker without wheelspinning, I can stop quite noticeably quicker and the car has a lot more grip on the corners.

Only problem is I still have Primacys on the back, so if I corner too quickly the back end lets go which, while a lot of fun, isn't really something you want to be doing on a public road. It's certainly not something you'd expect from a very front heavy, FWD, diesel Mondeo either!

This is in the dry too, so the tread depth isn't an issue. In the wet the difference between the Dunlops and the, when new, Michelins is increased even more.

MG difference? About 1.3 mpg less with the Dunlops. Quite possibly explainable by the change in driving style that a better handling tyre can cause.

bigjl

SueC wrote: »

Dunlops from new and always stuck with them till last week, when I needed an urgent change, couldn't wait for tyres to be ordered, and the only brand in stock were Michelin. So I now have Michelin on the front and Dunlop on the back.

I did feel a bit 'sold to' by the tyre place, so wanted to check opinion. I have to say I'm probably a bit more confused now than I was at the beginning of the thread!

You have good tyres on the back and front now, so no need to worry.

If I had a car worth several thousand like your Eos I would only put tyres such as Michelin, Toyo etc.

Nothing wrong with Dunlops, but I am a member of Costco and if I have the money then they would be my choice.

But my 05 Mondeo is not worth much now, maybe £2000/2500, I put cheap[ies on this time due to supply issues with the ones I wanted, and budget issues as far as Toyo or Michelin goes, but I already regret putting them on, definately less mpg and car doesn't "feel" as good as it used to on the worn Toyos.

My own fault for being tight, but then I went against my usual tacti which is premium tyres or midrange tyres.

Perhaps I should have waited for the Vredestiens to come back into stock.

We have had no issues with Michelins since they were chosen to replace the Goodyear tyres for the LAS, Michelins definately wear better, especially on the Sprinters, no more outside edge tread wear like with the GoodYears.

Met Police Traffic cars had Michelin tyres for years even though the normal Police cars had Goodyears, when you consider that Traffic do more high speed driving on motorways and dual carraigeways then their opinion is relevant.

I reckon if you put budgets on the front and had Dunlops on the back you would not be a happy bunny.

Put it like this, F1, BTCC and WRC cars don't run on LingLongs or some other budget tyre, this isn't only due to sponsorship, but performance.

Anybody that thinks a premium tyre is no better than a cheapy is deluded.

Though several mid range tyres, Toyo, Avon and Vredestein are very good and only loose out to premiums in very few catagories.

Above all, don't be confused, you have been sold good tyres, when the rears wear out then replace them with the same tyre that you have on the front.

s_b

SueC wrote: »

Dunlops from new and always stuck with them till last week, when I needed an urgent change, couldn't wait for tyres to be ordered, and the only brand in stock were Michelin. So I now have Michelin on the front and Dunlop on the back.

I did feel a bit 'sold to' by the tyre place, so wanted to check opinion. I have to say I'm probably a bit more confused now than I was at the beginning of the thread!

best practise is to fit new tyres to the back so it would seem tyre place are not up to speed:)