Incorrect procedure from local authority?

Ravanelli

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Hahaha, really? Talking of CEO fun & games, did you like Parking Pataweyo, the Harry Enfield character last year (youtube it if you missed him!).

I'll check it out

Coupon-mad wrote: »

But then private parking prats aren't real CEOs anyway and the tickets are a scam (you quoted my paragraph about fake tickets). BTW do you in the Council Parking Dept all know that private tickets are a worthless scam? Your colleagues wouldn't actually believe and appeal one would they?

I am interested to know...:)

I know nothing about private parking tickets, we do get asked for advice occasionally, the standard reply is to seek advice from CAB.

I know a colleague who did pay a private ticket. Would I pay one? yes if I was in the wrong, if I had a grievance then no I would fight it.

halibut2209

Ravanelli wrote: »

I'll check it out



I know nothing about private parking tickets, we do get asked for advice occasionally, the standard reply is to seek advice from CAB.

I know a colleague who did pay a private ticket. Would I pay one? yes if I was in the wrong, if I had a grievance then no I would fight it.

Sadly, the CAB advice is very uninformed. They advise to pay then appeal. They don't realise that there is NO appeal process in private tickets.

RENEGADE_2

halibut2209 wrote: »

Sadly, the CAB advice is very uninformed. They advise to pay then appeal. They don't realise that there is NO appeal process in private tickets.

Does that not depend on the actual company? Those with whom I am familiar (ParkingEye, CP Plus, Europarks, APCOA, PARKFORCE) do mention "appeals" in their apologetic literature and there have been times (recorded here on the forums) where appeals have been successful. I'm not speaking for the PPCs but maybe I am missing something when people keep saying "there is no appeal process".

Coupon-mad

RENEGADE wrote: »

Does that not depend on the actual company? Those with whom I am familiar (ParkingEye, CP Plus, Europarks, APCOA, PARKFORCE) do mention "appeals" in their apologetic literature and there have been times (recorded here on the forums) where appeals have been successful. I'm not speaking for the PPCs but maybe I am missing something when people keep saying "there is no appeal process".

It's because 99% of the time there is no appeals process because it's a sham - the answer is no whatever the circumstances. Oh they certainly pretend to have an appeals process because it:

a) makes the fake parking ticket seem like a real one, and

b) collects information about the cirumstances, the driver etc.

The cases you are thinking of, recorded on the forums are almost all where the retailer has told them to cancel a ticket (they will do so in that case as they don't want to lose the car park they are carrying out their lucrative scam in).

Apart from that I can count on one hand the 'appeals' where a PPC has said 'OK we will cancel'. Most of them are recent (since the Freedom Bill was started) and I very much suspect there is a small element of 'show appeals' going on this year by PPCs wanting to be shown to be complying with the BPA Code of Practice. No doubt they are jostling for position to get their greedy faces in the trough if the Freedom Bill is carried through with the shocking inclusion of registered keeper liability.

I bet the BPA is gathering some 'successful appeals' to show the Transport Minister that they can play nicely - which is why we must all complain to the BPA about any PPC breaching their pathetic CoP. This will ensure that the BPA are then kept busy investigating each case - as they have told the government they do - and one would assume they will then have to show those complaints as well.

NeverAgain_2

Coupon-mad wrote: »

It's because 99% of the time there is no appeals process because it's a sham - the answer is no whatever the circumstances. Oh they certainly pretend to have an appeals process because it:

a) makes the fake parking ticket seem like a real one, and

b) collects information about the cirumstances, the driver etc.

The cases you are thinking of, recorded on the forums are almost all where the retailer has told them to cancel a ticket (they will do so in that case as they don't want to lose the car park they are carrying out their lucrative scam in).

Apart from that I can count on one hand the 'appeals' where a PPC has said 'OK we will cancel'. Most of them are recent (since the Freedom Bill was started) and I very much suspect there is a small element of 'show appeals' going on this year by PPCs wanting to be shown to be complying with the BPA Code of Practice. No doubt they are jostling for position to get their greedy faces in the trough if the Freedom Bill is carried through with the shocking inclusion of registered keeper liability.

I bet the BPA is gathering some 'successful appeals' to show the Transport Minister that they can play nicely - which is why we must all complain to the BPA about any PPC breaching their pathetic CoP. This will ensure that the BPA are then kept busy investigating each case - as they have told the government they do - and one would assume they will then have to show those complaints as well.

The sad thing is I doubt Renegade will listen to Coupon-mad's well-reasoned reply.

As a council employee, any free or independent thinking is frowned upon, and you only believe or act upon what someone higher up in your own organisation tells you.

oooopark

I'd like to thank the helpful people who replied to me.
As for "shopaholic" : I think your reply was rude and ignorant.
You may notice I'm new to the sight.
This part of the forum is for people to get advice on parking tickets.
There are legitimate grounds for appeal , as detailed on the main site but you have assumed I do not meet these. I feel I have a legitimate reason for appeal and YES I am insured. I do not , however, have to justify myself to the likes of you.
Trawling through a site forum just so you can (ignorantly) slag people off seems , at the least, a waste of your own time and borders on idiocy. Please go away quickly.

peter_the_piper

G51shopaholic wrote: »

I have been driving for over 15yrs. I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED SO MUCH AS A PARKING TICKET!

Same here but for 45 years but that does not mean I won't help another driver out, well anyone actually.

MDBJ

Having read G51shopaholic's post the scales have finally fallen from my eyes. I now realise that I have been suffering under some terrible misapprehensions all these years. I'd always assumed that the law had to be complied with by the public and those who enforce it alike and that just because an accusation was made didn't necessarily impute guilt. I was clearly wrong.

I now understand that if any semi-ignorant agent of some quasi-state enforcement organisation or self-appointed self-empowered private agent makes an accusation that one must bow before them and accept one's guilt.

But wait a minute. Isn't that yielding to Fascism? Or are we going to be completely honest and call it Corporatism?

Still, G51shopaholic, don't feel guilty about being taken in by the lies. The propaganda is very good quality and pretty pervasive.