Jobseekers allowance and child benefit

mitch161

stop the bickering people. OP just tell them your child is moving out. trust me a little white lie that results in stopping a payment is actually a good thing here.

so now you know what to do at 9am on monday. hope this has helped

NickyBat

mitch161 wrote: »

stop the bickering people. OP just tell them your child is moving out. trust me a little white lie that results in stopping a payment is actually a good thing here.

so now you know what to do at 9am on monday. hope this has helped

Ok, so say you go ahead and do this, what happens if after making the claim they decide to do a compliance visit and you all get caught out and get prosecuted for fraud, will you still feel justified in doing what you did?

ohreally

NickyBat wrote: »

Ok, so say you go ahead and do this, what happens if after making the claim they decide to do a compliance visit and you all get caught out and get prosecuted for fraud

Where is the act of fraud in politely declining to accept payment?

There is no intent to secure personal gain.

NickyBat

ohreally wrote: »

Where is the act of fraud in politely declining to accept payment?

There is no intent to secure personal gain.

You are telling them the child has moved out in order to stop child benefit, therefore when the child makes the jobseekers claim what address are they going to give.....another family member?, or say they are living on their own?
One lie leads to another and another and so on, you are teaching the kids it's ok to lie for financial gain!!!!

starrystarry

ohreally wrote: »

Where is the act of fraud in politely declining to accept payment?

There is no intent to secure personal gain.

Yes there is, the whole point would be to gain more money by claiming JSA instead of CB.

ohreally

starrystarry wrote: »

Yes there is, the whole point would be to gain more money by claiming JSA instead of CB.

Sorry, run it past me....someone else may start a claim for benefit in their own right - this has nothing to do with their parent, not least from a fraud perspective.

There may be moral/ ethical arguments, but fraud - no chance.

starrystarry

ohreally wrote: »

Sorry, run it past me....someone else may start a claim for benefit in their own right - this has nothing to do with their parent, not least from a fraud perspective.

There may be moral/ ethical arguments, but fraud - no chance.

I'm not sure the authorities would view it that way. In a nutshell, the OP would be lying in order to enable her son to claim JSA. And as Nickybat says, it could cause problems when he tries to claim from the same address.

NickyBat

starrystarry wrote: »

I'm not sure the authorities would view it that way. In a nutshell, the OP would be lying in order to enable her son to claim JSA. And as Nickybat says, it could cause problems when he tries to claim from the same address.

Ditto, the authorities would not view it that way.

ohreally

starrystarry wrote: »

And as Nickybat says, it could cause problems when he tries to claim from the same address.

Moved out to live independently, encountered barriers and had no support mechanisms to provide assistance so returned to the parental home - don't see the issue.

NickyBat

ohreally wrote: »

Moved out to live independently, encountered barriers and had no support mechanisms to provide assistance so returned to the parental home - don't see the issue.

And how could you prove it wasn't done for benefit gain only?.......you couldn't.
And when claiming jsa you must report any change in circumstances , ie, change of address, so why didn't you do this?