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Inheritance problems ahead ?

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  • Any
    Any Posts: 7,959 Forumite
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    OP, your mother is living in what she wants to hear and I am not sure that by stirring the issue you are going to help.

    There is no will, why would someone just take someone elses word for it? Without knowing the laws and details? She hears what she wants to hear, she lives in blisfull ignorance and I think it is on purpose.

    And to tell you don't worry about your pension??? Does she have gift of seeing the future or something? Do you have any idea how many "IF"s there is? They can get ill, have an accident and wait/pay for transplant, need care in very old age.... etc etc etc.

    Seriously, proceed with your plans as if you never had this conversation.
  • ceridwen
    ceridwen Posts: 11,547 Forumite
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    edited 30 June 2011 at 1:09PM
    If he didn't want to risk a child being conceived, then playing away wasn't the brightest of ideas. Also, I don't think the father is in any position to be pontificating about disloyalty.

    No offence intended OP, but ceridwen always seems to think that men should have some sort of say in whether children come into this world or not and it is annoying in the extreme. Whatever your views on your half-sibling, they did not ask to be born as I'm sure you are aware.

    I hope you've found your answers. Best wishes OP.

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Must admit that my reaction to the phrase "ceridwen always seems to think that men should have some sort of say in whether children come into this world..." is:

    "That comment was just priceless:rotfl::rotfl:" quickly followed by "hell-O - of course they do".

    Ohmegawd - I needed a laugh right now and that comment will cause me to do so for the rest of today at intervals I guess..

    Its SO blindingly obvious that both people in this scenario quite quite obviously had the right to have their say about this that for someone to say with an absolute "straight face" that they didnt is "Duh! What!!!!?:rotfl:" territory that its no wonder I find that astonishing..

    I am in no way excusing OH's father having an affair. Affairs are wrong - pure and simple - end of....so I am in no way an apologist for his behaviour back then...but what done is done...and the past cannot be revisited and "play it again" but in a different way (ie no affair in the first place).
  • ceridwen
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    Any wrote: »
    OP, your mother is living in what she wants to hear and I am not sure that by stirring the issue you are going to help.

    There is no will, why would someone just take someone elses word for it? Without knowing the laws and details? She hears what she wants to hear, she lives in blisfull ignorance and I think it is on purpose.

    And to tell you don't worry about your pension??? Does she have gift of seeing the future or something? Do you have any idea how many "IF"s there is? They can get ill, have an accident and wait/pay for transplant, need care in very old age.... etc etc etc.

    Seriously, proceed with your plans as if you never had this conversation.

    ...but I would agree with this comment.

    One always always has to make ones own plans financially and NEVER rely on being left anything. Even if parents honestly have made all possible plans to help out their adult children - that doesnt mean to say that it WILL actually happen in the event.

    Some people need nursing homes and the Government (via local authorities) then hold out their hand to grab for the house/savings (and one could argue till Kingdom Come - and some people would re whether that is right or no - but it happens sometimes....).

    Governments might decide they were that desperate for money (and...yep..another possible source of "discussion") that they might try and impose Inheritance Tax even on ordinary people with an ordinary amount of money.

    The parents themselves might need to spend so much money on healthcare - due to a combination of health problems and the shortcomings/cutbacks in the NHS that they might have had to spend all their money on themselves (in which case - then obviously one has to turn round and tell them to do precisely that and they must, first and foremost, use their money for their own needs).

    Who knows what might happen? There are just so many variables - so its always as well to make one's own plans and regard any inheritance as a bonus.
  • Plans_all_plans
    Plans_all_plans Posts: 1,630 Forumite
    Exactly why you find biological FACTS so hilarious is beyond me...

    Unless a man is entirely stupid, he knows that a child may result from sex, regarless of what precautions are taken. Until a man is in the position of being able to get pregnant, ALL he can do is state a preference for what happens to his unborn child.

    In a healthy relationship an unexpected pregnancy would result in discussion between the couple, granted, but if an impasse is reached, the woman gets the final say in this country at the moment. If we are going to have legalised abortion in this country, then the woman is the only person who should be able to decide what happens.

    If a man does not want to risk a child of his coming into being, he needs to think before he has sex. He makes his choice before the woman falls pregnant. Afterwards, the ball is in her court currently and the man also knows THAT.
  • KateBob
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    No one has mentioned that even if her father makes a will and leaves everything to wife and/or legitimate children there is still the chance that the will could be contested by the other child.

    The possiblility is there and they could win, better that a provision is made for them even if small as this reduces the chances of a sucessful claim.
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  • ceridwen
    ceridwen Posts: 11,547 Forumite
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    Kate/Bob wrote: »
    No one has mentioned that even if her father makes a will and leaves everything to wife and/or legitimate children there is still the chance that the will could be contested by the other child.

    The possiblility is there and they could win, better that a provision is made for them even if small as this reduces the chances of a sucessful claim.

    I take the point made - but would the "other"child even necessarily know that they had a chance there to "grab for some money" that they knew they werent meant to have?
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    ceridwen wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Must admit that my reaction to the phrase "ceridwen always seems to think that men should have some sort of say in whether children come into this world..." is:

    "That comment was just priceless:rotfl::rotfl:" quickly followed by "hell-O - of course they do".

    Ohmegawd - I needed a laugh right now and that comment will cause me to do so for the rest of today at intervals I guess..

    Its SO blindingly obvious that both people in this scenario quite quite obviously had the right to have their say about this that for someone to say with an absolute "straight face" that they didnt is "Duh! What!!!!?:rotfl:" territory that its no wonder I find that astonishing..

    I am in no way excusing OH's father having an affair. Affairs are wrong - pure and simple - end of....so I am in no way an apologist for his behaviour back then...but what done is done...and the past cannot be revisited and "play it again" but in a different way (ie no affair in the first place).

    That barely even makes any sense since you know full well what was meant and it was not as you imply.
    "Life is what you make of it, whoever got anywhere without some passion and ambition?
  • Nixer
    Nixer Posts: 333 Forumite
    Is the OP in Scotland? I think all of the replies have assumed not, but just in case, it is virtually impossible to disinherit children in Scotland, so a will that excludes the other child would not be much use. I think it depends on whether the estate comprises land/buildings only though. If not Scotland and a will was made then the child would have to prove that they were a financial dependant.

    As someone who has had a parent die intestate I'd advise you to kick them into making a will (regardless of which children they include in it), it's much less of a pain and far quicker dealing with an estate where there's a will.
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