Parking fines on what i believe is our land

ihoward

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to get a hold of information relating to the boundaries of our property in Leeds City Centre. I have been issued with a parking fine and after "speaking" with the traffic womble he said that it was given due to my car having a wheel over our property boundary.

The money is not such an issue, its the principle. One wheel of my car was over what he thinks the boundaries are by less than the width of my foot.

in 1992 the council here asked for permission to dig up the land which my car was parked on. if it were their land they wouldnt need to ask for permission would they?

vax2002

If it not gated, roped off as to speak they can give you a ticket on any land that can be driven on to, buy some rope and 2 hooks

ihoward

this would mean the entire car park outisde our building can not be parked on.

vax2002

ihoward wrote: »

this would mean the entire car park outisde our building can not be parked on.

If they wanted to get funny over it YES, it would

ihoward

even though it is private land?

vax2002

ihoward wrote: »

even though it is private land?

Yes even if it is private land, it has been tested in court, you need to have someway of closing it off and marking it as private that would prevent it from been driven on to, such as a rope, a chain or even a fence.

ihoward

Interesting. so if i park on my drive at home which doesnt have a gate, im in the wrong? ouch.

vax2002

ihoward wrote: »

Interesting. so if i park on my drive at home which doesnt have a gate, im in the wrong? ouch.

If it has parking restrictions on the road marked, you need to separate the land from the highway, this is now case law
see here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6691961/Doctor-loses-court-battle-over-fines-for-parking-on-his-own-land.html

vax2002

I could tell you what you want to hear, but you may be back when the council bailiffs want £700 from you.
So apologies, it is a bad law, but they have you by the balls i'm afraid if you argue, they will drag up the case law verdict

pendulum

vax2002 wrote: »

If it has parking restrictions on the road marked, you need to separate the land from the highway, this is now case law
see here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6691961/Doctor-loses-court-battle-over-fines-for-parking-on-his-own-land.html

What a shocker.
I can barely believe that.

Why should parking restrictions on the highway affect private land? Surely its up to the landowner what parking restrictions if any he puts on his own land. Terrible law.

vax2002

pendulum wrote: »

What a shocker.
I can barely believe that.

Why should parking restrictions on the highway affect private land? Surely its up to the landowner what parking restrictions if any he puts on his own land. Terrible law.

Agreed ! A very bad law.
separate the land with anything that prevents it been driven on to with signs in the gate you are entering private land by driving through the entrance.
If its a small car park, use a rope on hooks once the cars are parked with a sign on the rope Private land beyond this point the warden may not cross what is clearly defined boundary.