Bad reference from previous employer

SarEl

I do hope they will give you a shot. We were all stupid at 20. Ok - some more than others. But youth is something that time will cure. ..

essex_jim_2

aimiez_30 wrote: »

If the company will ask you during interview. just give your honest answer. Better face it. Who knows, maybe it will give you positive result. Telling the truth will set you free. Anyway, as you said, it was already settled long ago. And you are young that time, so I think they will consider it.

Lets hope so!

OurKev

Jim, I think it would be very hard to find an application form that is absolutely honest - everybody has a tendency to exaggerate their roles/achievements and play down or not mention weaknesses or previous issues. The application form is an opportunity to demonstrate why they should employ you, not to give them reasons not to.

The suspension was due to you not following procedures correctly, before things were resolved another job opportunity came up.

No need to be apologetic, you were not sacked, you took on a better job in the circumstances you were in. Although you were confident that you would not be sacked, you knew your prospects there would always be limited.

You have gone on to make a success in your new job and working there for 6 years (with no issues, I presume) should be very much in your favour.

If your new employer is not happy with this, maybe you could suggest a trial period where you could prove yourself?

Good luck (I have a feeling all will be OK),

Kev

essex_jim_2

OurKev wrote: »

Jim, I think it would be very hard to find an application form that is absolutely honest - everybody has a tendency to exaggerate their roles/achievements and play down or not mention weaknesses or previous issues. The application form is an opportunity to demonstrate why they should employ you, not to give them reasons not to.

The suspension was due to you not following procedures correctly, before things were resolved another job opportunity came up.

No need to be apologetic, you were not sacked, you took on a better job in the circumstances you were in. Although you were confident that you would not be sacked, you knew your prospects there would always be limited.

You have gone on to make a success in your new job and working there for 6 years (with no issues, I presume) should be very much in your favour.

If your new employer is not happy with this, maybe you could suggest a trial period where you could prove yourself?

Good luck (I have a feeling all will be OK),

Kev

Thankyou Kev, that's really nice (all of the comments on here are extremely appreciated, I've barely slept the past 2 nights). As I said in the 1st post all the skills needed for this new role I've gained at my last employers as it's very specialist. None were gained at the bank. I also have had no issues whatsoever in my last company, I've had 4 jobs in fact and each one has been a progressive step upwards. If anything I've always felt because of what happened at the bank it spurred me onto really make something of myself.

I will apologise for not putting it on the application form, if only because right now I need to kiss as much !!!! as humanly possible.

At the end of the day, if it's meant to be it will happen.

Fingers crossed and thankyou all.

bluenoseam

Good luck, by the sounds of things you made a bit of a mistake which in the end was rectified to a point and hopefully the employer will see that rather than the snipe about leaving while under investigation which just sounds like the bank trying to ensure that you don't wind up working in a similar setting again.

Hammyman

essex_jim wrote: »

Hi all, looking for some advice urgently please.

I recently applied for a new job in a very large company and got it so handed in my resignation at the firm I've worked in for the past 6 and a half years. I was happy enough in my role but felt I wanted to progress and they couldn't offer me that. The job is very IT specialist and I have gained all the experience for this new role in the company I've just left.

I knew I would recieve various checks before employment commences in just under 2 weeks, 1 of which was a credit check, I'm on a DMP so I told the agency to inform the HR department and they didn't think it would be an issue at all. So far, all good.

However, I recieved a very worried voicemail last night around 4:30 from the agency who found me the job telling me to call immediately due to something that's come up on my checks.

I think it must be about the job I had before my last. I was in the role for 2 years and left 7 years ago. It was for a bank and I left whilst under suspension. I was a cashier and occaisonally would get differences in my till (as did many other cashiers) if this happened you had to stay and try to find the cash, either through recounting cash or going through all your credits and debits throughout the day and see where potential errors may have laid.

I must admit I wasn't the best of cashiers and would often have to stay late until a difference was found, one day I simply had to be somewhere straight after work and had a massive difference of a grand. I panicked as I couldn't find it straight away and changed the figures round to balance and would try to find it the next day. I couldn't find it and subsequently had to tell my boss. They suspended me on the basis that I concealed the difference.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? Should I completely confess everything? What if they ask why I didn't put this on my application?

Thanks in advance

You were guilty of committing fraud at the old job even though you didn't commit theft. You've committed fraud in your application no doubt by falsly declaring why you left.

Hammyman

OurKev wrote: »

The suspension was due to you not following procedures correctly, before things were resolved another job opportunity came up.

Err, no. They went beyond that and committed outright fraud when they deliberately manipulated figures to hide a shortfall.

essex_jim_2

Hammyman wrote: »

Err, no. They went beyond that and committed outright fraud when they deliberately manipulated figures to hide a shortfall.

Whilst under pressure and panicked as a 20 year old. It was 7 years ago and with the job I've had since my record has been completely unblemished.

I know what you're saying though, and I'm not disputing that. It's human beings we're dealing with though, not robots and as most on here can see it was a mistake. A large one yes, but a mistake nonetheless, and it's difficult to justify how long a punishment for that 1 mistake should last.

The agency have just rung me up right now. I explained everything and stated the firm are free to call me or the bank to discuss the reference further. He's hopeful (but I appreciate he would say that) so will find out tomorrow.

essex_jim_2

Just heard back from agency.

The new company said providing everything I've said is correct then they are happy with employing me. They are contacting the bank to confirm what I've said is true though. I hope to god if the bank do provide a detailed reference (I have no idea and neither does the agency as to whether they can or not) then they don't miss anything out/bend the truth.

So so far, so good.

hcb42

Good news, fingers crossed