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Public sector wellcome to the real world
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Maybe now is a good time to look at just what public sector workers do and how their work impacts onto every member of the community and then consider the effects if they were not there or experienced staff had to be replaced by others.
Like it or not, public sector workers are the ones we all rely on to provide essential services.
Imagine if there was no police, no doctors, no nurses, no teachers, no fire brigade, no ambulances, no civil servants to process benefit claims, no job-centres, no railways, no bus drivers, no air space controllers, no dentists, no rubbish collections, no street lighting, no social workers.......I could go on and on. We all take them for granted and never even think about them or miss them until they are not there. Yet many are not paid to a level that even begins to reflect their value to the community.
There are some that a previous poster referred to as "fat cats" who are on large salaries, but these mostly are well-trained and experienced staff who either fulfill a role which others cannot do or are needed to pass on their expertise to the less experienced staff.
We could of course get butchers to carry out surgical operations, bank employees to teach maths, people who enjoy reading to teach English, gardeners with hose-pipes to put out fires, plumbers with a spanner to pull out teeth, white van men could ferry injured people to hospital, any mum could be a nurse, and we all could take turns to sweep the streets and be dustbinmen. That's an option, but how feasable??.... and how long before things go wrong??
Extreme? Yes maybe! But so too is not giving value to public sector workers!
Over to you....private sector gripers!
Nobody is disputing that some parts of the public sector are necessary. But until they find it impossible to get recruits, why are they offering such generous pensions?
I believe that whenever the fire service have a recruitment drive they get around 250 applications for each position.0 -
It would be very interesting to find out where it is not the case. Can you send me more information please? Or are you referring to schools which have chosen to close and re-open as Academies?
no, just local government payscale in general. If your on say grade x which has 3 increment points & your at the bottom of the grade. You'll get your increment next year & the year after. In fact the LA I work for, loads of people have come out with promotions due to restructures (unbelievable, but true), even though, plenty are having to drop down a grade.0 -
I have been on the max scale point of my grade for the last 9 years, there is no option for this to be reviewed even though I have gained additional qualifications and met all performance management targets because our school is currently running on an £800,000 deficit despite 14 redundancies and many staff having their hours reduced. It's a downside of PFI.no, just local government payscale in general. If your on say grade x which has 3 increment points & your at the bottom of the grade. You'll get your increment next year & the year after. In fact the LA I work for, loads of people have come out with promotions due to restructures (unbelievable, but true), even though, plenty are having to drop down a grade.0 -
I have been on the max scale point of my grade for the last 9 years, there is no option for this to be reviewed even though I have gained additional qualifications and met all performance management targets because our school is currently running on an £800,000 deficit despite 14 redundancies and many staff having their hours reduced. It's a downside of PFI.
the cost of PFI is a cost to the LA, nothing to do with the Schools Surplus/Deficit. It amazes me how they got into an £800k deficit in the 1st place.0 -
Within our LEA progression up the pay scale is no longer automatic for support staff. To achieve it workers must fully meet Performance Management Targets. When targets are not met, they also can be down-graded.no, just local government payscale in general. If your on say grade x which has 3 increment points & your at the bottom of the grade. You'll get your increment next year & the year after. In fact the LA I work for, loads of people have come out with promotions due to restructures (unbelievable, but true), even though, plenty are having to drop down a grade.0 -
The PFI payment is taken from our schools budget by the LEA before it comes to us. It amounts to almost 1/3 of the budget which the LEA assigns to us, but it is fixed. Many schools can reduce their costs by choosing to cur back on window cleaning, grounds maintenance and decoration. We do not have that option. All premises and caretaking duties are undertaken by our PFI company and for any repairs where contractors are brought it, not only does the school get charged for the work but also a 10% handling fee by our PFI partners. We are locked into a 25 yr contract which the LEA made with them and it cannot be changed.the cost of PFI is a cost to the LA, nothing to do with the Schools Surplus/Deficit. It amazes me how they got into an £800k deficit in the 1st place.0 -
We were unlucky to be the first school built and managed under PFI in the U.K. in 2000. Many lessons have been learned since, we still carry the scars and are forced to live with the problems.The PFI payment is taken from our schools budget by the LEA before it comes to us. It amounts to almost 1/3 of the budget which the LEA assigns to us, but it is fixed. Many schools can reduce their costs by choosing to cur back on window cleaning, grounds maintenance and decoration. We do not have that option. All premises and caretaking duties are undertaken by our PFI company and for any repairs where contractors are brought it, not only does the school get charged for the work but also a 10% handling fee by our PFI partners. We are locked into a 25 yr contract which the LEA made with them and it cannot be changed.0 -
I am 61. I can qualify for a pension, but it is not sufficient to support me as I am on my own, hence my decision to purchase AVC's to boost my pension to £7,000 p.a.if youre in your late 50's you'll still qualify for the 85 year rule, so you can retire on full pension at 60 (providing you have 25 years service)0
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