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Daytime Running Lights = stupidity?
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They most certainly are not and if you drive with your rear fog lights on in the rain, be prepared to be asked by Mr Plod to turn them off.
Try reading Rules 226-237 of the highway code I would post the link but this site at the moment will not let me.Fog lights to be used when visibility is seriously reduced.i.e not just FOG but any condition that SERIOUSLY reduces visibility.As I say IF you are close enough to the vehicle in front to see their rear lights no matter how poor the visibility one,more than likley,do not need front "fog" lights activated.If the vehicle behind you can be seen no matter what the conditions then more than likley one can switch off one's rear lamps.
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You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves [see rule 236.]"
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You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced [see rule 266] as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves."0 -
Oh how I wish this happened more often / at all.
It happens more often than you think. When I was driving past the scene of a rather nasty accident last winter, the police were directing traffic around the debris (in scene reminiscent of a bad "B" movie, I saw Christmas presents strewn across the carriageway and one had been split open to reveal child's doll). It was pouring with rain and I witnessed several motorists being told to switch off their rear fog lights.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Try reading Rules 226-237 of the highway code I would post the link but this site at the moment will not let me.Fog lights to be used when visibility is seriously reduced.i.e not just FOG but any condition that SERIOUSLY reduces visibility.As I say IF you are close enough to the vehicle in front to see their rear lights no matter how poor the visibility one,more than likley,do not need front "fog" lights activated.If the vehicle behind you can be seen no matter what the conditions then more than likley one can switch off one's rear lamps.
"226
You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves [see rule 236.]"
"236
You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced [see rule 266] as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves."
Can you spot the obvious?The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
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pitkin2020 wrote: »Well thats where I have been going wrong, I was using them in the mist not the fog DOH!
If you have been using them in the mist, then you have been using them illegally, because mist is fog where the visibility is greater than one kilometer.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Can you spot the obvious?
Yes I can but you quite clearly you cannot.They may be reffered to as FOG lights but they are for use when,and only when,visibility is seriously reduced.
Thats any condition that reduces visibility seriously,so for example if rain SERIOUSLY reduced VISIBILITY one would use,what for ease of identification(and in an attempt to explain to the hard of thinking customer)motor manufactureres call FOG lamps/lights.Also if for example one was driving in,say,the countryside and one came upon a moorland fire and smoke were to be hanging over the road one could and indeed should use the "FOG" lights if the VISIBILITY were SERIOUSLY reduced!
As I said they are not SPECIFICALLY FOG lights they are POOR VISIBILITY LIGHTS they are for use in conditions of POOR VISIBILITY such as,say,FOG.Which just happens to be a very short word which could easily be embossed into a switch!
Now would you like me to start this thread again but in crayon OR shall I illuminate it with say a POOR COMPREHENSION LIGHT/LAMP?:D0 -
It happens more often than you think. When I was driving past the scene of a rather nasty accident last winter, the police were directing traffic around the debris (in scene reminiscent of a bad "B" movie, I saw Christmas presents strewn across the carriageway and one had been split open to reveal child's doll). It was pouring with rain and I witnessed several motorists being told to switch off their rear fog lights.
Yes clearly because the visibility was not seriously reduced.It seems obvious that you,and others could easily see each other within the specified distance.Close up and in rain a "FOG" light just overpowers everything!0 -
Yes I can but you quite clearly you cannot.They may be reffered to as FOG lights but they are for use when,and only when,visibility is seriously reduced.
Thats any condition that reduces visibility seriously,so for example if rain SERIOUSLY reduced VISIBILITY one would use,what for ease of identification(and in an attempt to explain to the hard of thinking customer)motor manufactureres call FOG lamps/lights.Also if for example one was driving in,say,the countryside and one came upon a moorland fire and smoke were to be hanging over the road one could and indeed should use the "FOG" lights if the VISIBILITY were SERIOUSLY reduced!
As I said they are not SPECIFICALLY FOG lights they are POOR VISIBILITY LIGHTS they are for use in conditions of POOR VISIBILITY such as,say,FOG.Which just happens to be a very short word which could easily be embossed into a switch!
Now would you like me to start this thread again but in crayon OR shall I illuminate it with say a POOR COMPREHENSION LIGHT/LAMP?:D
I cannot, for the life of me ever remember being in rain so bad that it reduced visibility to less than one hundred meters.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Well I can,I guess it depends on how many miles one does and where one drives.It's not just the rain but the spray as well.
The whole point of my initial comment/post was common sense should be applied when driving and riding.
And as an aside,less than two weeks ago,whilst driving in Germany near Aachen the rain and wind was so severe branches were floating down the autobahn,a unrestricted 4 lane stretch,the visibility was so poor the road came to a stand still simply because even with lights at 2pm noone could see.Heavy rain is not peculiar to just Germany!0
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