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At my wits end and really need some advice!!

Ok here goes could be a long one.

The problem is with a property my dad was left to him by his mother in her will. My dad lived in this property all his life and paid his mother a nominal rent. When she was alive they had a very strained relationship and he did'nt see her often and when he found out she was dying he did'nt even go to visit her in hospital. When she passed away she left him the property in the will.

Ok now here is the problem, before my nan passed away my dad had a burst in the house (this was about 10years ago) and moved back in with my Mum (they are divorced but still friends) we got the burst sorted so he moved back. Then about 4yrs later he needed the roof repairing which he paid his brother to do but this was left unfinished without a roof for years.

To cut a very long story short my Dad is now caring for my Mum who has severe mental health problems and has buried his head in the sand about this house. My Nan died 5years ago and he has still not completed the details on the will so the house is'nt in his name yet. The house is completley derelict and the coucil are going to make a compulsery purchase order on it. I've tried to talk to him about it but he just walks out on me.

Anything i can do, :confused: i have been at my wits end with all this as i am the one dealing with his brother and sister and my Mum bless her who his very poorly has been getting phone calls from my dads neighbour.:mad: :mad:
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  • lynzpower
    lynzpower Posts: 25,311 Forumite
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    Cant he just put it up for sale? It would be perfect for auction by the sounds of it.

    If he doesnt want to listen, nor take any steps, hes going to lose the house and the council will CP it.

    If he can get it sold first, or show the council willing ( eg, I have made artrangements for the place to be auctioned in feb) then hes going to lose out.
    :beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
    So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:
  • mophead
    mophead Posts: 198 Forumite
    Thanks for the reply Lynz he has'nt gone to solicitors to sign the deeds over in his name all his post still goes there his brother broke in and changed the locks and gave me all his post which i passed on to him about 6months ago and he still has'nt opened it!!!
  • Alan_M_2
    Alan_M_2 Posts: 2,752 Forumite
    Difficult situation, some people attacheso many memories to property that they just can't bear selling it and would infact rather it go to ruin than having to face up to it.

    Something about dealing with the property is likely to be raking up memories your Dad would rather not deal with, so try to find out if you can get a letter of authority drawn up to give you the powers necessary to deal with it and remove responsibility from your father.

    Go and discuss this with a solicitor (if possible the solicitor that dealt with the probate), you can get a document drawn up then propse the idea to your father who would need to authorise it to absolve him from responsibility.

    Make sure it's not a transferance of ownership, just an authority to act on his behalf.
  • lynzpower
    lynzpower Posts: 25,311 Forumite
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    Does he care that the place is being CPed?
    :beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
    So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:
  • lynzpower
    lynzpower Posts: 25,311 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Alan_M wrote:
    Difficult situation, some people attacheso many memories to property that they just can't bear selling it and would infact rather it go to ruin than having to face up to it.

    Something about dealing with the property is likely to be raking up memories your Dad would rather not deal with, so try to find out if you can get a letter of authority drawn up to give you the powers necessary to deal with it and remove responsibility from your father.

    Go and discuss this with a solicitor (if possible the solicitor that dealt with the probate), you can get a document drawn up then propse the idea to your father who would need to authorise it to absolve him from responsibility.

    Make sure it's not a transferance of ownership, just an authority to act on his behalf.

    Alan, this sounds as if you are recommending almost POA?

    Im not sure that this would be viable, Mophead, in other respects is your dad able to maage his affiairs himself? How is his emotional health? Is, for want of a better phrase, he able to cope? Does he understand whats going on?

    My feeling is, yes, he may find this traumatic, but removing his rights to deal with it if hes otherwise compus mentus would be an abuse of his choices IYSWIM
    :beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
    So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:
  • Alan_M_2
    Alan_M_2 Posts: 2,752 Forumite
    Sorry I may not had made myself clear, I wasn't suggesting that anything be done behind his back.

    I'm reading between the lines here and assuming there is an emotional tie with the property that's being brough to the fore every time it's even discussed.

    The authority was desinged to be with your father permission to remove the stress of having to deal with something He's finding upsetting. It might be a huge relief on his part that He doesn't have to worry about it.

    Ask him point blank, if He'd like you to deal with it, it may be tha answer, I was only suggesting the letter from a legal standpoint as you'll require the authority at various points along the way.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,948 Ambassador
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    The house is derelict so either it needs to be sold or the council CP it. I'm presuming that your Dad is not able or willing to arrange its renovation.

    The council will inform him of the price thay intend paying; I think that it may be on the low side but not the horror stories that we heard in the 1970s. Friends had their house CP'd in the 1990s, by the time they allowed for the EA fees they would otherwise have, they were happy with the figure they got. This may not be such a bad idea, at least your Dad is forced to face up to it.

    Incidentally, do the council think they are CPing it from your Nan, if it is still in her name?
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  • Who are the executors of the Will?
    What has happened to other items or bank accounts etc left by your nan?
    ..
  • mophead
    mophead Posts: 198 Forumite
    sorry not had time to reply getting little ones ready for bed will log on later thanks again.
  • mophead
    mophead Posts: 198 Forumite
    Ok kiddies are all in bed now:beer:

    Thanks again for your replies I have been so stressed over this:mad:

    Just to answer some of you replies
    Something about dealing with the property is likely to be raking up memories your Dad would rather not deal with, so try to find out if you can get a letter of authority drawn up to give you the powers necessary to deal with it and remove responsibility from your father.

    Your right there is definatley a lot of emotion tied to this house it was my his fathers house who died when my father was 20 something he has never recovered from. I have offered to deal with it for him on many occaisons my OH is a builder who could do the work at a very cheap rate but for some reason he refuses to accept this pride may be a big part of this i don't know.
    Who are the executors of the Will?
    What has happened to other items or bank accounts etc left by your nan?

    My father is the executor the other items which were insurances, another property and bank acounts have all been dealt with. Just this house remains undealt with.
    The council will inform him of the price thay intend paying; I think that it may be on the low side but not the horror stories that we heard in the 1970s. Friends had their house CP'd in the 1990s, by the time they allowed for the EA fees they would otherwise have, they were happy with the figure they got. This may not be such a bad idea, at least your Dad is forced to face up to it.

    The council don't even know where he is living all the post is still being sent to the deralict house he has court summons for council tax and also letter from the enviro health for work they did when pigeons decided to nest there still not dealt with the elec and gas have all gained entry and disconnected the supply somehow my uncle managed to get the keys for the new lock off them for the new locks and refuses to give them to my dad. He wants to buy the property off my dad but my dad won't have it:mad: :mad: God this is such a mess
    Ask him point blank, if He'd like you to deal with it, it may be tha answer, I was only suggesting the letter from a legal standpoint as you'll require the authority at various points along the way.

    Have done this and all he says is he will sort it:mad:
    Does he care that the place is being CPed?

    Yes I think he does, i think he is terrified of opening a can of worms because he has left it to get in such a mess. He really is'nt very good at dealing with these sort of things and won't accept anybody's help.

    I've almost resigned myself to the fact there is absolutly nothing I can do. It's just such a shame to watch this happen. Thanks again
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