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Ed Balls calls for emergency tax cut

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  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Isn't Ed Balls the shadow chancellor? I seem to remember that there was a, I think it was called, general election more than a year ago. Apparently there's this chap called George Osbourne and, I'm guessing again, that he's the real chancellor and will be in charge of tax decisions for at least a few years yet.

    Doing quite a job too by all accounts. He had this brilliant 'rabbit from the hat' idea at the last budget that required anyone willing to invest in the North Sea to f**k off; knocked a whole penny of the price of a litre of petrol as well.
  • ....Its a shame he didnt win the Labour leadership - would have seem them out of power for a long long time

    Not sure on this one.

    Young Red Eddie is doing a perfectly good job of keeping Labour out of power for a long time - all on his own.

    Mark Serwotka and Bob Crow will provide the 'cabaret' of entertainment over the coming months.

    Ballsie is just an insignificant sideshow. He's a mere "John Prescott waiting to happen".
  • vax2002
    vax2002 Posts: 7,187 Forumite
    Pete111 wrote: »
    Really?

    I'm quite well off but have been paying VAT for years - where do I apply for my rebate?

    Then you may be, not as well off as you think, if you were you would already be aware of VAT avoidance loopholes.
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  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    vax2002 wrote: »
    Then you may be, not as well off as you think, if you were you would already be aware of VAT avoidance loopholes.

    How can a private individual avoid VAT?

    You have to pay the specified VAT rate to any vat registered company at the correct rate for eligible items.

    You can't reclaim it or offset it as a individual so how can you avoid it?
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 16 June 2011 at 10:37AM
    Pete111 wrote: »
    Really?

    I'm quite well off but have been paying VAT for years - where do I apply for my rebate?

    As you well know, it is a regressive tax that disproportionately affects the poor.

    Funny how we switch to a consumption tax away from Income Tax just when income starts starting to go off a cliff.

    Must be catch all those pensioners too, in our aging little Island, don't want them leaving without paying more tax once more.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Kennyboy66
    Kennyboy66 Posts: 939 Forumite
    I'm not sure a tax cut would go down to well with the rating agencies!

    Hmmm,

    Only a week ago this is what the IMF

    'the IMF also warned of “significant” risks that growth will remain feeble and unemployment “unacceptably high”.

    ..... the IMF said that in such a scenario, the economy should be stimulated with a combination of more “quantitative easing” from the Bank of England and “temporary tax cuts” for businesses and low-income households.

    IMF not normally the voice of fiscal irresponsibility.

    Where Balls is wrong is in comparisons with the early 1980's recession. Then manufacturing was hollowed out (by Thatchers macho strong pound idiocy, lets not forget) and never returned.

    This time, if its retailers and most service sectors that suffer - they are highly likely to be replaced 5 years down the line.
    US housing: it's not a bubble - Moneyweek Dec 12, 2005
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    On the basis they didn't "warn" us with their foresight then why should their opinion rule what the Government do now...

    Credit rating agencies opinions on our country, is quite important!

    But I agree with you, and whoever else, to make life easier :)
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    As you well know, it is a regressive tax that disproportionately affects the poor.

    Funny how we switch to a consumption tax away from Income Tax just when income starts starting to go off a cliff.

    Must be catch all those pensioners too, in our aging little Island, don't want them leaving without paying more tax once more.

    One of the first things Maggie did as well.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Really2 wrote: »
    How can a private individual avoid VAT?

    You have to pay the specified VAT rate to any vat registered company at the correct rate for eligible items.

    You can't reclaim it or offset it as a individual so how can you avoid it?

    Well if you own your own business, are VAT registered, you could of course buy your nice shiny 4X4 4 door hard cab and use it as your personal vehicle, whilst also claiming to use it for shifting that rubble too, maybe.;)
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Kennyboy66
    Kennyboy66 Posts: 939 Forumite
    Really2 wrote: »
    How can a private individual avoid VAT?

    You have to pay the specified VAT rate to any vat registered company at the correct rate for eligible items.

    You can't reclaim it or offset it as a individual so how can you avoid it?

    pay your tradesman cash, buy your CD's etc from the internet, buy you fags & ale from white van man etc, etc.

    The consumer pays the VAT, the seller collects it for HMRC.
    US housing: it's not a bubble - Moneyweek Dec 12, 2005
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