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Leaving job for short term contract - JSA implications?

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  • dookar wrote: »
    I don't have time (or inclination) to look up the case law etc but, quite simply, if I worked for tesco yesterday and then for sainsbury's today then my employment is with Sainsbury's and a subsequent claim to JSA would refer to that employment.

    It's a difficult thing for me to prove, really, because you can't prove a negative. But I can assure there is no amount of time they go back looking through reasons for leaving employment.

    The law is here, see for yourself:

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1995/18/section/19

    Thanks for the reference. 6(b) doesn't seem to have been amended, but there's an ambiguity - if the maximum you can be sanctioned is 26 weeks, then presumably the thing to do on, a belt-and-braces basis, would be to leave, apply for JSA, get sanctioned (MAXIMUM 26 weeks, so presumably possibly less); take up new contract then when that finishes, the 26 weeks is nearly going to be up anyway. Presumably they don't operate any sort of "split" sanction???
    This is assuming they do check back anyway.
  • CCFC_80
    CCFC_80 Posts: 1,289 Forumite
    dookar wrote: »
    You're talking nonsense. I could address each of your points, but this sums it up:

    LV questions don't delay a claim because you cannot be sanctioned for them unless the benefit is in payment.

    Sorry don't get this what's an LV question ?

    As you appear to be such an expert, why then do you have to put on your JSA claim all your previous employment in the past 6 months and reasons for leaving all those jobs and why are all these employers in most of the cases contacted as to why you left ?
  • CCFC_80
    CCFC_80 Posts: 1,289 Forumite
    Thanks for the reference. 6(b) doesn't seem to have been amended, but there's an ambiguity - if the maximum you can be sanctioned is 26 weeks, then presumably the thing to do on, a belt-and-braces basis, would be to leave, apply for JSA, get sanctioned (MAXIMUM 26 weeks, so presumably possibly less); take up new contract then when that finishes, the 26 weeks is nearly going to be up anyway. Presumably they don't operate any sort of "split" sanction???
    This is assuming they do check back anyway.

    You mentioned the temporary contract is for 4 months. If it was me, I would wait for 6 months too have elapsed from leaving the initial job voluntarily after completing the 4 month temporary contract and then go back to a new JSA claim . You wouldn't have the need then to face any possible JSA sanctions.
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    Thanks for the reference. 6(b) doesn't seem to have been amended, but there's an ambiguity - if the maximum you can be sanctioned is 26 weeks, then presumably the thing to do on, a belt-and-braces basis, would be to leave, apply for JSA, get sanctioned (MAXIMUM 26 weeks, so presumably possibly less); take up new contract then when that finishes, the 26 weeks is nearly going to be up anyway. Presumably they don't operate any sort of "split" sanction???
    This is assuming they do check back anyway.

    I'm not sure what you mean, but I think you're talking about self imposed sanctions?
    CCFC_80 wrote: »
    Sorry don't get this what's an LV question ?

    As you appear to be such an expert, why then do you have to put on your JSA claim all your previous employment in the past 6 months and reasons for leaving all those jobs and why are all these employers in most of the cases contacted as to why you left ?

    I don't "appear to be such an expert", I offer my actual expert knowledge, because that's what I possess.

    My expertise is in Labour Market questions, one of which is LV (Leaving voluntarily), so I can't answer your question other than to say, again, not for anything to do with LV.
  • Leaving a two month gap. (Sigh:() Bank of Mum & Dad steps in again... as they say
    "Money can't buy you love, but it sure keeps you in touch with your children"!
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    Leaving a two month gap. (Sigh:() Bank of Mum & Dad steps in again... as they say
    "Money can't buy you love, but it sure keeps you in touch with your children"!

    Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. As does Busy Mom.

    Your daughter can quit her job, take another and complete the contract and quitting the previous job won't matter.
  • tsimehC
    tsimehC Posts: 763 Forumite
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    busy mom, afaik has vast experience of the JCP and how it's systems work (think she's a staff there) so I'd take her advice over any other. As far as my own advice goes, the last job counts and that's it or I was misinformed through all those new claims I handled...
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