Leaving job for short term contract - JSA implications?

cartimandua51

My daughter is in a job in which she is profoundly unhappy. An opportunity has come up to apply for a 4-month research assistant post which she hopes will help her find a career in the area she wants. I've floundered round the DWP specialist guidance notes & the Directgov site, but can't find any guidance on whether she would be debarred from claiming JSA after the end of the contract because she had left the previous job, which was a permanent post, voluntarily.

Anybody got any experience / info?

busy_mom_2

cartimandua51 wrote: »

My daughter is in a job in which she is profoundly unhappy. An opportunity has come up to apply for a 4-month research assistant post which she hopes will help her find a career in the area she wants. I've floundered round the DWP specialist guidance notes & the Directgov site, but can't find any guidance on whether she would be debarred from claiming JSA after the end of the contract because she had left the previous job, which was a permanent post, voluntarily.

Anybody got any experience / info?

If a person makes a claim to JSA it is only their previous work that is investigated, not employment prior to that. They would write to the employer to confirm the end of a temporary contract.

CCFC_80

busy_mom wrote: »

If a person makes a claim to JSA it is only their previous work that is investigated, not employment prior to that. They would write to the employer to confirm the end of a temporary contract.

I do not believe that is strictly true.They will investigate any employment within the last 6 months (i.e you could have had more then one job).

If you left any job voluntarily in the last 6 months you could face upto a 26 week JSA sanction.

dookar

CCFC_80 wrote: »

I do not believe that is strictly true.They will investigate any employment within the last 6 months (i.e you could have had more then one job).

If you left any job voluntarily in the last 6 months you could face upto a 26 week JSA sanction.

Busy Mom is absolutely right

CCFC_80

dookar wrote: »

Busy Mom is absolutely right

And your source on this please ????

So then people can quit a job voluntarily and then find a job with an agency that lasts for one day and then re-qualify for JSA.

I don't think so somehow

They want to know all employment you have done in the last 6 months.

dookar

CCFC_80 wrote: »

And your source on this please ????

Hang on a minute

CCFC_80 wrote: »

So then people can quit a job voluntarily and then find a job with an agency that lasts for one day and then re-qualify for JSA.

Yes

CCFC_80 wrote: »

I don't think so somehow

Based on what?

CCFC_80 wrote: »

They want to know all employment you have done in the last 6 months.

Not for this reason they don't

dookar

19 Circumstances in which a jobseeker’s allowance is not payable.

(1)Even though the conditions for entitlement to a jobseeker’s allowance are satisfied with respect to a person, the allowance shall not be payable in any of the circumstances mentioned in subsection (5) or (6).

(6)The circumstances referred to in subsections (1) and (3) are that the claimant—

(a)has lost his employment as an employed earner through misconduct;

(b)has voluntarily left such employment without just cause;

I don't have time (or inclination) to look up the case law etc but, quite simply, if I worked for tesco yesterday and then for sainsbury's today then my employment is with Sainsbury's and a subsequent claim to JSA would refer to that employment.

It's a difficult thing for me to prove, really, because you can't prove a negative. But I can assure there is no amount of time they go back looking through reasons for leaving employment.

The law is here, see for yourself:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1995/18/section/19

Sharon87

Well Busy Mom is right, I left a job in a cinema where I was at a year for a 2-3 month contract, after that finished I claimed JSA and was asked about my last job only.

Otherwise how is anyone suppose to start a career without fear of being skint because of JSA sanctions after a temporary contract has finished.

I was lucky in the fact I wasn't on JSA for that long before I got more work.

Tell your daughter to go for it. Can't throw an opportunity away like that. Good luck to her!

CCFC_80

dookar wrote: »

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1995/18/section/19

This link quotes 1995 (16 years ago) there have been many changes since then.

People who claim JSA have to account for any employment in the past 6 months regardless of how many jobs they have had and I know for a fact that all of those employers are asked as to why you have left those jobs to make sure you never left voluntarily or through misconduct.

Infact you have to put on your claim all your employers in the past 6 months and reasons for leaving the job.

At least It was the case when I last claimed JSA in 2007. In fact I had 3 jobs with agencies in the 6 months prior to my claim and was told it was delayed due to waiting correspondence not yet received from all of these agencies

As reiterated ,if this was the case anyone could leave a job voluntarily or through misconduct and then find one days work through an agency and qualify for JSA.The JCP would not allow this loophole to be exploited so easily

CCFC_80

Sharon87 wrote: »

Well Busy Mom is right, I left a job in a cinema where I was at a year for a 2-3 month contract, after that finished I claimed JSA and was asked about my last job only.

Otherwise how is anyone suppose to start a career without fear of being skint because of JSA sanctions after a temporary contract has finished.

I was lucky in the fact I wasn't on JSA for that long before I got more work.

Tell your daughter to go for it. Can't throw an opportunity away like that. Good luck to her!

There is no problem claiming JSA if a temporary contract has ended as that has come to a natural end. You did not leave voluntarily or through misconduct. Also from what you are saying you had another job to go too even though it was temporary and you just didn't walk out on your cinema role.

If you had any other previous job prior to that in the 6 months to your claim, you would have to advise the JCP on that and the reasons as to why you left that job.

If there is more then a 6 month gap between the OP's daughter resigning from her job and then having to claim JSA after her 4 month temp contract has finished she would not face JSA sanctions anyway.

dookar

CCFC_80 wrote: »

This link quotes 1995 (16 years ago) there have been many changes since then.

People who claim JSA have to account for any employment in the past 6 months regardless of how many jobs they have had and I know for a fact that all of those employers are asked as to why you have left those jobs to make sure you never left voluntarily or through misconduct.

Infact you have to put on your claim all your employers in the past 6 months and reasons for leaving the job.

At least It was the case when I last claimed JSA in 2007. In fact I had 3 jobs with agencies in the 6 months prior to my claim and was told it was delayed due to waiting correspondence not yet received from all of these agencies

As reiterated ,if this was the case anyone could leave a job
voluntarily or through misconduct and then find one days work through an agency and qualify for JSA.The JCP would not allow this loophole to be exploited so easily

You're talking nonsense. I could address each of your points, but this sums it up:

LV questions don't delay a claim because you cannot be sanctioned for them unless the benefit is in payment.