Can NOK get an injunction on behalf of someone with MH Issues?

balancelife

if she's doing things that put her or others at risk a nearest relative (next of kin) can make an application for her to be assessed under the mental health act and she may be sectioned and helped in hospital, or a social worker could do this? what involvement does she have with mental health services?

flutterby_lil

OMG i really feel for you, how are things today? Where are you based?

blue_monkey_2

I forgot to post back here - I posted on the other thread about how to hlp with the condition. I contacted Adult Protection this morning at the Council (I guess Social Services) and they told me...... that I should offer to go with her to her GP (I have already done this), get her the details of relateso her and her husband can go there and also go and speak to the school so I can voice my concerns and they can 'counsel' me for feeling guilt over what is happening. They would also tell Children, Schools and Families IF there were any concerns (have already spoken to the school anyway).

I was really, really angry when I came off the phone. They did not want to know. No wonder people die if no-one who has the power to do something, gives a toss. Oh, and if her family take her again I can report her missing.

blue_monkey_2

balancelife wrote: »

if she's doing things that put her or others at risk a nearest relative (next of kin) can make an application for her to be assessed under the mental health act and she may be sectioned and helped in hospital, or a social worker could do this? what involvement does she have with mental health services?

None at the moment, they told me a GP and only her GP, could refer her. They were not interested in how much she weighed either. Not in the slightest. The school were more concerned than they were.

Errata

To be fair, the people you spoke to on the telephone at the Council don't know you from Adam and gave you good advice and information. For all they know, you could be as loopy as your friend's family seem to be.

blue_monkey_2

But surely they would just need to speak to her GP and the Police to piece everything together? Surely all of these places should work together?

gorgeouslatinrose

I know this may have already been mentioned ( and may not have seen it so really sorry if this is the case) but has the husband contacted anyone in regards to emotional abuse onto him from her and the family? i know this may seem extreme, but it seems like its going to take a lot to get her the help she needs, and if he is not careful if something does happen then he needs all the help he can get for him and the kids. I am sorry you are in such a bad situation, just wish could give you the advice you need .

Errata

blue_monkey wrote: »

But surely they would just need to speak to her GP and the Police to piece everything together? Surely all of these places should work together?

Just on your say so? Why would they do that? What concrete proof did you offer that what you were telling them was true? You would be truly amazed if you knew how many people rang the Council with a farrago of half truths and lies about somebody else and their behaviour.

blue_monkey_2

The concrete truth would have been there if they had called the police to clarify the information I had given them, for a start. The department I called, i got the details from a PDF on the council website and it had the police logo on the back. It said that it was the line for reporting abuse (and then listed the kind of abuse) - apparently they work together. I am pretty sure that when someone calls the police pretending to be someone else and lying about the incident, that it does not go un-recorded. Maybe that is the key to getting them out - next time I'll do just that and at least they might remove her from the situation.

Someone else said I could go to the police and tell them my concerns, the police had already raised those concerns - so why can they not get together (as the leaflet suggests they do) and clarify the situationand take action. And then when they found I was not lying they would have been able to take the rest of my call seriously and realise I am not some random fruitcake calling making false allegations against people. But than that would be too much work I guess.

Just what sort of thing do you have to tell them to get any help anyway? If you read the other thread, someone else is going through the same with her SiL and it looks like she will die before she gets the help they are all asking for.

RacyRed

Errata wrote: »

Just on your say so? Why would they do that? What concrete proof did you offer that what you were telling them was true? You would be truly amazed if you knew how many people rang the Council with a farrago of half truths and lies about somebody else and their behaviour.

Who decides what is true and what isn't? Are situations not checked? Or does whoever picks up the phone make an instant decision and that is that, it is labeled half truth or lies not worthy of further action?

The experts cannot be relied upon to get it right

Time and time again a child or vunerable adult dies or is badly hurt because some "expert" chose to ignore a letter or a phone call. Time and time again we hear councils say "it must never happen again". It always does.

OP, how did her family get her today? Where was her husband?