No Mirrors, Damaged Car, Or A Parking Fine For Being On The Curb...:(

roddydogs

"Should not do so elsewhere" but its NOT an offence outside London.

d.ross_2

roddydogs wrote: »

"Should not do so elsewhere" but its NOT an offence outside London.

It's an offence anywhere, but it all boils down to common sense by the council.

If local residents started a campaign to get the council to provide enough parking, then that could be far more costly to them than just using common sense if someone parking with two wheels on the footpath isn't causing an obstruction.

d.ross_2

Torry_Quine wrote: »

It causes problems to people with wheelchairs or double buggies and blind people using a cane.

They need to park somewhere where they don't go on the pavement or unduly narrow the road even if that isn't close to home and yes I've had to do that.

You didn't read your previous post. If the footpath is wide enough, then they aren't causing an obstruction. As for blind people, a car causes no more of an obstruction than street furniture if the path is wide enough.

Like I said it needs common sense, or the council making costly changes to make sure their are enough parking spaces for the residents. On new developments the council are 100% responsible for causing the problem by allowing developers to build houses without taking such things into consideration.

Torry_Quine

d.ross wrote: »

You didn't read your previous post. If the footpath is wide enough, then they aren't causing an obstruction. As for blind people, a car causes no more of an obstruction than street furniture if the path is wide enough.

Like I said it needs common sense, or the council making costly changes to make sure their are enough parking spaces for the residents. On new developments the council are 100% responsible for causing the problem by allowing developers to build houses without taking such things into consideration.

Of course I know what I said in my previous post!;)

No matter how wide it can cause problems as does street furniture. There is no right to park near your home in any case.

d.ross_2

Torry_Quine wrote: »

Of course I know what I said in my previous post!;)

No matter how wide it can cause problems as does street furniture. There is no right to park near your home in any case.

I know there is no automatic right to park near your home. I didn't say that. But council planning departments should take parking problems into account. And where there is a very wide footpath they should use common sense. After all they don't fine themselves for obstruction when they put lamp posts, street lights, etc.. on the footpath.

Torry_Quine

d.ross wrote: »

I know there is no automatic right to park near your home. I didn't say that. But council planning departments should take parking problems into account. And where there is a very wide footpath they should use common sense. After all they don't fine themselves for obstruction when they put lamp posts, street lights, etc.. on the footpath.

We are obviously not going to agree on this. I see drivers who park on pavements other than in an emergency as selfish. It causes problems for pedestrians and damages the pavement itself which isn't designed for this purpose.

Coupon-mad

Torry_Quine wrote: »

We are obviously not going to agree on this. I see drivers who park on pavements other than in an emergency as selfish. It causes problems for pedestrians and damages the pavement itself which isn't designed for this purpose.

So every single car outside my window now in my road, on this side, was parked by a selfish driver!

You have to take account of local parking issues and the width of the road, surely? And if cars have always parked this way for 30 years or more round here, with no problems...then there's still no problem IMHO.

Torry_Quine

Coupon-mad wrote: »

So every single car outside my window now in my road, on this side, was parked by a selfish driver!

You have to take account of local parking issues and the width of the road, surely? And if cars have always parked this way for 30 years or more round here, with no problems...then there's still no problem IMHO.

If on the pavement then yes they are.

d.ross_2

Torry_Quine wrote: »

We are obviously not going to agree on this. I see drivers who park on pavements other than in an emergency as selfish. It causes problems for pedestrians and damages the pavement itself which isn't designed for this purpose.

You are completely missing my point. I agree that it is selfish to park on the footpath if it is causing an obstruction. However if it isn't causing an obstruction, and people are doing so in order to keep the roadway clear, then councils should use common sense, and stop being jobsworths.

paddedjohn

d.ross wrote: »

You are completely missing my point. I agree that it is selfish to park on the footpath if it is causing an obstruction. However if it isn't causing an obstruction, and people are doing so in order to keep the roadway clear, then councils should use common sense, and stop being jobsworths.

agreed, but is the pavement constructed in such a way as to take the weight of motor vehicles and are the services below sufficiently protected?