No Mirrors, Damaged Car, Or A Parking Fine For Being On The Curb...:(

roddydogs

Why are people quoting London Footpath parking rules? The offence is obstructing the footpath, which can be anywhere.!

esmerobbo

Is this a Police FPN or a council PCN? "unnecessary obstruction" is a police FPN init? If it is a FPN then the only appeal is Magistrates court.

d.ross_2

paddedjohn wrote: »

your friend just got lucky, its not up to the fire brigade to advise you to park on the pavement just like you wouldnt ring the council if you had a fire.
the leaflet he received mentioned inconsiderate parking so he parks on the pavement? can you not see the irony here?

It is up to the fire brigade to make sure that they can get down a road. It is also up to the council to take such matters into account. After all it is the council who have made the footpaths so wide that the road width is restricted, meaning that there isn't enough parking space for the residents if they can only park one side of the road.

It is a case of using common sense.

d.ross_2

Torry_Quine wrote: »

Did the fire-brigade actually say to park on the pavement though or did they jsut say that parking on both sides of the road made it too narrow for their vehicles? If they didn't actually recommend parking on the pavement which I doubt then you need to park elsewhere however difficult that may be.

In this case the footpath is very wide, so he wasn't causing any obstruction to people using the footpath. There are actually new developments in the same town where the planners have failed to consider residents parking, and the problem it causes for access for large vehicles.

Torry_Quine

d.ross wrote: »

In this case the footpath is very wide, so he wasn't causing any obstruction to people using the footpath. There are actually new developments in the same town where the planners have failed to consider residents parking, and the problem it causes for access for large vehicles.

No matter how wide the pavement parking on it is inconsiderate and can cause problems.

d.ross_2

Torry_Quine wrote: »

No matter how wide the pavement parking on it is inconsiderate and can cause problems.

Not on a cul-de-sac it isn't. It's just the council being jobsworths.

What sort of problems do you see it causing? Because they wouldn't compare to the problems if a fire engine couldn't get through.

Torry_Quine

d.ross wrote: »

Not on a cul-de-sac it isn't. It's just the council being jobsworths.

What sort of problems do you see it causing? Because they wouldn't compare to the problems if a fire engine couldn't get through.

It causes problems to people with wheelchairs or double buggies and blind people using a cane.

They need to park somewhere where they don't go on the pavement or unduly narrow the road even if that isn't close to home and yes I've had to do that.

paddedjohn

Parking on footpaths also causes damage to the surface and possibly any services buried beneath.When the fire brigade say you are blocking the road they mean park elsewhere, around the corner or something.
Owning a car does not give automatic entitlement to a parking space.

Coupon-mad

There is no reason not to park partly on the kerb, in places where it's allowed. In fact in some roads there are bays marked partially on the pavement.

In my road this is not the case, but there are no parking restrictions (cos we rejected the Council's 'kind offer'!). And on our side we have to park partly on the kerb or emergency vehicles couldn't get through. It's the accepted way to park in these narrow streets, there is nowhere else at all to park - and traffic wardens pass by here every single day to and from their office, with no tickets issued of course.

I don't understand though, how the OP got a 'Council fine' for 'obstruction' which I thought was the domain of the Police. If it's a Council PCN I would put a pic of the PCN on pepipoo forums and get advice on a possible appeal:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

If it's a Police FPN then pay it.

anewman

roddydogs wrote: »

Why are people quoting London Footpath parking rules? The offence is obstructing the footpath, which can be anywhere.!

anewman wrote: »

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069860?CID=TAT&PLA=url_mon&CRE=highwaycode_parking

244 You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.

Coupon-mad wrote: »

I don't understand though, how the OP got a 'Council fine' for 'obstruction' which I thought was the domain of the Police.

As parking offences are decriminalised, I believe many Police forces are getting rid of their traffic wardens - and local Councils taking over. I figure under such an arrangement Police would only get involved in cases of obstruction at the request of a concerned citizen, e.g. blocked in on their driveway.